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Raven Audio Nighthawk

So the scuttlbutt on the Raven integrated amps is pretty good. But just how good are they? Are they good when compared to other comparably priced tube integrateds? Or are they better than some heavy hitters?

I currently have a NOSvalves ST-45 amp paired with a Don Sachs Model 2 (latest version) preamp and I am extremely happy with this pairing. With that said, I guess there is nothing really that I'm looking to improve. But since we all know how this game goes, I just wonder how much better (or not) the Blackhawk III would be. Consolidating two pieces down to one chasis is an attractive idea too.

I would love to hear from you if you own a Nighthawk or Blackhawk or have auditioned one against something else. I know they offer a 45 day trial period, but from my calculations if I don't like it it will cost me close to 400.00 out of pocket once the dust settles. So I'd like to go into this with a warm fuzzy that it's pretty darn good.

Oz



ozzy62
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tomic601
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Charles my suggestion based on replacing the B and K amplifier.

There are many competent tube integrated as well. 
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charles1dad
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Hi @tomic601, 
I was acknowledging your " oz,  I'm pulling for you to weigh in with reality".
Looking forward to his A/B comparison,  should be insightful and fun.
Charles 
kingbarbuda
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@millercarbon Agreed. Tube watts are definitely different than SS watts! I am enjoying the Boyuurange A50 Mk3 Psvane 300B tube integrated that Steve Guttenberg reviewed and recommended. This thing makes a nice soundstage with depth and imaging. It’s a bargain. Plus it puts out 7.6 wpc and drives my 89db Magico A3s with no problem. I have never had the volume knob past 12 o’clock. I am not sure I have even had it that far! This little amp has got me wondering if this Boyuurange can do this, what can a Raven Osprey do? 
sryeager
125 posts
 
Thanks for all of your input.  

XS137 - a couple months ago I talked to Musical Concepts/Design and they were doing B&K mods.

i just lept on a chance for an in home trial of a used Rogue Cronus Magnum II this afternoon, and raced up I-5 to snatch it.  At least I can experience tubes without making a purchase.  It’s hooked up, biased, and I’m starting to listen.  No hum or hiss.  Subs are running high level, and I might have to back them off a bit.  Certainly has as much power as the B&K’s 200W.  I haven’t listened enough for a verdict yet.
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jjss49
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+1

ozzy pls tell us how that raven is... so much talk and pumping about these ravens by m-c (but i don’t think he actually has one 🙄 )

am sure it is quite a decent piece, made in usa, by good guys real enthusiasts... but we are talking about a rather standard push pull 6l6 pair per channel tube amp with output trannies... how ’head and shoulders above the rest’ can it be???

don sachs kootenay
van alstine ultravalve
roger modjseki rm’s
vaic/ayons
carver crimson
various cj

not to mention amps with real differentiating tech like linear tube audio and audio research


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