Second opinions — how have others (including non-audiophiles) helped you?


Have been building a system since December 2020, just about at a place where I can rest for a while. Very enjoyable process of researching, trying, listening. Last phase, room treatments, are just about done.

Along the way, it's been very useful to bring in other family members and some close friends to listen and tell me what they hear. Most are non-audiophiles. But what jumped out to them helped me recalibrate what I was attending to and listen anew.

I was really trying to listen critically — sometimes with checklists of qualities to pay attention to. But myopia is a hard problem to see around, if you will. In some very important moment (including speaker tryouts), they pointed to obvious problems which I was missing.

Here's one recent example. I had been trying to tame some bass peaks and loaded the front of the room up with panels. I got those peaks under control — tight bass, well placed imaging, natural sounding instruments. Then, I had my wife sit down, and in a couple of seconds she noticed that things sounded "constrained" and "missing air." I pulled a couple bass traps out of there and things opened up — "Ah, that's better," she said. As I sat to listen, she was right. Better reverb, more space, lightness.

That's just one example. My question to anyone wanting to share is how other people (including non-audiophiles) helped you improve your system.
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I value the input of others for several reasons, principal among them being that I can't audition in our system the number of equipment that it would take to efficiently effect improvement in our system.  I must rely on the kindness of strangers :)

The underlying predicate here is that strategic equipment matching can result in higher levels of convincingness with respect to the recreation of the recorded event in our living room...no less than the raison d'etre for us being here.

For me, the strategy of achieving the highest level of recorded event convincingness started with selecting a speaker with the highest potential to transmit the recorded event that I could afford and then build the system around the speakers in such a way as to prioritize transparency.  The underlying predicate here being that convincingness is a function of transparency...I acknowledge that it is a function of other factors as well, but transparency is certainly a primary factor.   I chose B&W Matrix 801 Series 2 with North Creek crossovers.  These speakers were described by Louis Lipnick in his Stereophile review as "ruthlessly revealing".  They're even more so with the North Creek crossovers.  So this is exemplary of me acting upon the input of someone else.

In the interest of transparency, I chose Bob's Devices Solid Silver interconnects.  Also in the interest of transparency, I chose Dodd Battery Powered Preamp.  Being battery powered, it is dead quiet and having only one half of a dual triode tube and one capacitor, well two actually, one that is bypassed, in the signal path, it is extremely transparent.  Stephaen Harrell in his 6 Moons review described the Dodd Battery Powered Preamp as having a "sunny disposition", by which he meant that audio details are highly illuminated, but at the cost of texture.  So this was another example of me acting upon the input of someone else.  I knew I could bring texture to the system with choices of tubes, capacitors and cables.  I got the Dodd to both detailed and textured by using Voskhod 6N23P tubes.  Thanks to Audiogoner petg60 for the recommendation of those.  Yet another example of me acting upon the input of others.     

Now to amplification: I worked with a brilliant builder who used a version of a design developed by Gary Dodd that utilizes 2 6BL7GT tubes as input and driver and 4 KT-77 output tubes per 90 watt, 75 lb. monoblock.  They use all Dueland Cu-CAST capacitors and 1 watt PRP resistors.  They are extraordinarily transparent amplifiers.  By using the GT version of the 6BL7 instead of the GTA version, I was able to bring the system to yet an even higher level of convincingness.  This was done upon the recommendation of the builder and resulted in increased vividness, flesh and organicness compared to the GTA.  Input from others again.

Clean power is important for transparency, therefore I bought a Dodd Balanced Power Supply to run the system off of...also recommended from the builder.  Amazing improvement in transparency.

Lastly, speaker cables.  I chose Silversmith Fidelium because they have, justifiably so, been lauded by many here...again, acting on the input of others.  They've been referred to in one way or another as the least colored speaker cables yet created...i.e. transparent.  They really tied the system together :) 

When you get right down to it, basically everything in our system was selected to some degree on the basis of input from others.  And it's a stunningly convincing system.  It routinely produces drug-like levels of endorphins and occasionally tears of joy.  And I have the input of others largely to thank for this.  Thank you others, couldn't have done it without you!!!    

Concepts are the baggage that doesn’t allow those who cling to them to pass through the eye of the needle. I don’t quibble with the polarity/duality distinction, but concepts require extension in time. To enter the kingdom of God you go naked and alone... no concepts allowed.
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Before replying to a post arguing for your agenda read the post 2 times....And try to read about polarities in Coleridge....

Myself i will go to the heaven where brain and heart speak together and where silence is no more only a mute habit...

Enjoy your nostalgic come back to naturism, in my nature living concepts surge like trees from the garden of eden...Concepts dont ask only for extension in time, they exceed time....They are eternity manifested in time....I call that timing laws....In room acoustic this right timing give me a 3-d holographic sound....

Alleluia!

By the way this parable ask for quitting all that a rich man want to keep: his useless leisure and pleasures, not his working brain...

My God never ask me to be stupid....Or a robot programmed by his scripture....

My God is a lover, a poet and a mathematician....He like acoustic and only speak to crowds picking the better spot....
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"Before replying to a post arguing for your agenda read the post 2 times....And try to read about polarities in Coleridge...."

Forgive me, I was wrong. Previously I thought you were considerate, well mannered and good natured. Now I have see multiple occasions where you turn simple exchange into defensive argument. Enjoy your God. Enjoy your concepts.
Forgive me, I was wrong. Previously I thought you were considerate, well mannered and good natured. Now I have see multiple occasions where you turn simple exchange into defensive argument. Enjoy your God. Enjoy your concepts.
If you consider a reply to your own post unconsiderate i am sorry...

But you must read your own post before judging my reply...

Anyway i apologize if my frankness sometimes can be a little rude....

But a polarity is NOT a duality....A polarity exist in the real world of phenomena, a duality is only a fact in discourse...

And God dont ask to us to let our brain sleeping...

I apologize if my opinion has hurt your faith.... I have my own faith also...

By the way i am first a passionate man and sometimes not considerate enough it is true, and i like discussion.... Then.....

My best to you from my heart and brain....



«Concepts can be the grave or the seeds of love, the choice is ours»-Anonymus Smith
interesting thread..

I am only interested in Heaven IF my trusty Labrador is there..

Interestingly there are many words with no equivalent in another language...

Few artists and perhaps fewer scientists lack a muse or foundation...

As my sensei ( one of the inventors and refiners of Kaizen and the Toyota production system ) says: “ Everyone needs a sensei, even the change agent requires a change agent “

so I seek out others, rooms, systems, thoughts, tastes, etc... Normally I bring wine.