New turntable: TW or Obama?


About to take the plunge on a table to replace my venerable SOTA Star/SME V.

Top contenders: TW Acustic Raven LS or a Kuzma Stabi R with wood base.  Arm options are the TW 10.5 on the former, or something else.  Would likely get the Kuzma 4 point for the latter.

Anyone with experience and an opinion on these analog tables?

Cost wise they are similar, both under $20K.

Thanks!
bobbydd
 I'll bet you never thought this area would be a snarling snakepit of political opinion. Things have gotten much more touchy after everything except sunspots or the lack of them have been politicized. Good luck with whatever it was you were asking about today. Remember, it isn't the same world as when you went to sleep before Covid.
@jaym759 

I would agree a new Cosmos would be great, but the Kuzma 4point11 I suspect might be too heavy for the sprung chassis. The 4Point11 in my view is much better than the 4point9 and thats why I recommended the Kuzma TT with the 4Point11.

Do you have a Cosmos/Kuzma ??
dover1: I do have a cosmos/kuzma 4pt9...you are right that the kuzma4pt/11 is likely too heavy for the sprung chassis...but the 4pt9 seems ideal for my setup 
So, what's the problem? Why is anyone so triggered seeing "obama's" name being used! Whether it's a typo or not, get a grip!