Why not more popular?


A couple of years ago, I got my first set of open baffle speakers. I've owned a few pairs of Magneplanars and many box speakers over the years, but my current speakers are the first true open-baffle speakers I've owned. 

I am absolutely smitten with the sound. Musical, dynamic, powerful, and an amazing deep, open, airy sound stage, with none of the weird boxy resonances or port huffing that I've heard from so many box speakers. 

What I don't understand is why there are so few speaker companies making open baffle speakers, and why are they not more popular among audiophiles?
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I remember the DQ10 fondly, although I agree that the bass was their weakness. 

I haven't heard other full-range open baffle designs besides the ones I currently own. But I can say that the bass is definitely not a weakness in these speakers. I think the combination of drivers specifically designed for open baffle, plenty of radiating area, and servo control, really brings it home. 

But I will agree that this requires considerably more space than a conventional speaker. I have two large cabinets for each channel, and they absolutely can't be pushed up against the front wall. I'm fortunate to have a big enough dedicated room to let them shine.

From what I have heard from others, the Spatial speakers deliver excellent full-range performance in a more room (and WAF) friendly implementation. 
Maybe because of room limitations as they need to be placed out into the room.
Here is my Q have you heard a FR, single source driver? 
No, WEll you should. 
bdp24, maybe I am just an old guy and you do seem very informed but in my day open baffle meant just that and was not driver type limited. ESLs and planar magnetics are open baffle speakers and yes they are dipoles but so are any dynamic driver open to the rear. 

Next, if you think you can adjust the bass response of an open baffle woofer by adjusting the size of the baffle? Lets see, the wavelength of 100 Hz is about 10 feet. Any open baffle speaker of reasonable size is going to have bass cancelation issues regardless of the baffle size. That is just lay intuition. A driver with more surface area will produce more bass not a bigger baffle. So you see what Magnepan does with it's woofer panels. It makes the woofer diaphragms larger, many times the surface area of a 15" dynamic driver. But even with large diaphragms there are serious problems that prevent the production of adequately accurate and powerful bass in a room. Sound Labs has experimented with ESL subwoofers 7 X 7 feet, 49 square feet. Roger West is now working with old 30 inch EV drivers. Now he is a madman. 

Sand infill speakers have been around since the 50's. Warfdale I think was the first. If the final thickness of the enclosure wall is say 2" making a 2" thick MDF enclosure works just as well if not better. The primary resonance of a subwoofer is not the enclosure walls flexing, it is the entire subwoofer shaking. The way to stop this is to simply use opposing drivers in a "balanced force" configuration. The forces cancel out. Kef does this with the Blade, Magico with their big subwoofers. Boxes are easy to make but they make lousy subwoofer enclosures, better than an open baffle but that is about it. The ultimate subwoofer enclosure would be a sphere. Very difficult to build and apply. Next however is a cylinder. Wall stiffness second only to a sphere and easy to apply. Just stick a driver in each end and you have an opposing "balanced force" design in an enclosure that can be way stiffer than any box. No sand required.
I am a big fan of open baffle speakers using dynamic drivers in a 2 way configuration crossing down to an enclosed subwoofer. The open crossover can be made to look like art work. I recent heard a wonderful pair using Accuton drivers in a 1.5" thick quartz baffle board. Very cool looking. Instead of a stand they were hung on chains. What a great idea.
This is the thing I found out with an OB single baffle dipole, they are HARD to get even close. They sound wonderful, there is an immersion of sound, BUT the pole front to rear on the same baffle? THEN bounce off the front wall and it’s time aligned? HOW? It can’t be.

Dipoles on separate baffles the distance from the front wall to the back of the speaker, that is how deep and how far a speaker would have to be from the front wall. I notched the front pole to match the timing of the rear pole. You can’t do it with a common baffle. How the heck does GR do it? LOL.. You can’t! The best you can hope for it to mechanically slow the front pole and position the rear pole so close to the listening position the rear report won’t sound to far out of kelter.. NO WAY it’s gonna measure right.. BUT it sound DEEP and FULL..I could never get the sound stage right. there would be placement but no depth, then depth and no placement..

I tried until I was almost STUPID trying to figure that out with 123s.. They don’t work right.. LOL plane and simple.. Wound up on prozac because of those things..

Yes I have GRs OB servo system.. 3 doubles... Good stuff, BUT I been tinkering with direct coupling bass drivers, no passive crossover.. It actually works better for me and I'm using parts express drivers and a 300.00 Behringer 2496. I have better cone control and overshoot with class d 12k Behringer amps.. Took me a while to figure that one out... Stupid passive crossover in a bass system.. The dampening cannot work.. Short heavy copper. pretty simple.. direct coupled to heavy 12-15" drivers.. BACK it comes to center.. NOT in a forward position. Centered...