The Absurdity of it All


50-60-70 year old ears stating with certainty that what they hear is proof positive of the efficacy of analog, uber-cables, tweaks...name your favorite latest and greatest audio "advancement." How many rock concerts under the bridge? Did we ever wear ear protection with our chain saws? Believe what you will, but hearing degrades with age and use and abuse. To pontificate authority while relying on damaged goods is akin to the 65 year old golfer believing his new $300 putter is going to improve his game. And his game MAY get better, but it is the belief that matters. Everything matters, but the brain matters the most.
jpwarren58
I am 61 and get my hearing checked as part of my annual physical. The nurses always comment that my results are comparable to a teenager. I am one of those that claims to hear a difference between stock power cables and speaker cables. I can’t tell you what you can hear, but I can hear a difference. Isn’t that what really matters?  There is no wrong or right. 

tomic601
8,049 posts
04-21-2021 12:32am
I will ask my 19
year old wife for a second opinion on the directionality of wire......

hoping Google translator will help...

I'm reminded of a Rodney Dangerfield joke when said he'd needed a second opinion and was told he was also ugly.


04-20-2021 10:19am


"Point being to encourage more humility and less dogmatism. "

Right. So, what is more dogmatic? Saying trust your own ears, let them tell you what you hear, on your own system in your own room using your own judgement combined with years of experience figuring what kind of sound you like and knowing how to attain that? Or is it the measurement pushers? If there is no measurement difference then there is no difference?I can't see how saying "try it, see if you like it"  is dogmatic. Saying "Why would I try it, it doesn't measure any different" is considerably more so.And the naysayers who have not tried, and who use some kind of "science" to justify their closed minded beliefs? Do you need the sugar content of two different Granny Smith apples to know they taste different?

Dogmatic...

I recently finished building a heavy plinth Lenco L70. Last week when I put it into my system, I put it quickly on some large half round sorbothane "bits". (Have not yet decided if I'm using springs, roller blocks or some kind of pod) After doing my tonearm set up, I was finally able to actually listen to the TT. Was lacking in dynamics. Pulled the sorbothane and replaced with some spikes I fabricated quickly using baltic birch, steel spikes and aluminum bases. Huge difference.

Old ears?

I can hear the second hand of my watch sweep through my pillow.

And I know what to listen for in my system.

Perhaps, you should consider approaching this subject with a bit more humility...



desert3813 posts04-21-2021 11:44amI am 61 and get my hearing checked as part of my annual physical. The nurses always comment that my results are comparable to a teenager. I am one of those that claims to hear a difference between stock power cables and speaker cables. I can’t tell you what you can hear, but I can hear a difference. Isn’t that what really matters?  There is no wrong or right.

I'm sure I could also hear a difference between stock power cables and speaker cables, although I've got to admit I've never considered comparing them as they each have their own distinct purposes.
How about being so dogmatic you bring up measurements, even though they were never mentioned, only ears.
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