The Absurdity of it All


50-60-70 year old ears stating with certainty that what they hear is proof positive of the efficacy of analog, uber-cables, tweaks...name your favorite latest and greatest audio "advancement." How many rock concerts under the bridge? Did we ever wear ear protection with our chain saws? Believe what you will, but hearing degrades with age and use and abuse. To pontificate authority while relying on damaged goods is akin to the 65 year old golfer believing his new $300 putter is going to improve his game. And his game MAY get better, but it is the belief that matters. Everything matters, but the brain matters the most.
jpwarren58
jasonbourne52  You can hear a pin drop.  Wow!  That is proof to you, I presume, that you have perfect hearing.  Go get a test.  You will be surprised at the middle frequencies you do not hear, much less the ones above about 200 cps that a dropped pin makes;  however, we can just turn the volume up a whole lot and hear stuff that is normally silent to us. even if with a highly different frequency curve than a baby, or young teen.  I bet if you ask a bunch of tweens if they use a ringtone out of teh frequency of adults, you will find some a=who can demonstrate this to you.  This ring allows them to check messages in class, without allowing the teacher to hear it.
I was listening to a Milstein recording last night. I swear I heard a rosin particle fall off of his bow and hit the floor. 

Frank
Hearing, or, loss of hearing, I can testify, is indeed real, and, a huge loss of ones god given happeeenissseses...
Proof:
I can’t hear all the girls whistling at me (my hearing was much better in the 60’s, 70’s, a decent run in the 80’s)
perkri...
Try running a 60hz tone through the set up. Sit where you sit and listen to the timber of the bass. Then walk around the room. It will at some point become a droning mess, at other points it will almost vanish.
Very true.  It was eye opening to me when I actually heard cancellations occur as I walked around the room when setting up twin subwoofers. I found that not only location of subs and the location of the sitting position was important but using the phase adjustments made enormous differences. At 60 hz I can flip one switch on one of the subwoofers 180 degrees out of phase and create a null where you can't hear anything. Dead sound occurring at 60hz in my listening position. Move my head 3 feet forward out of the null and bingo there's the sound again. It also has a big impact on the lower 30hz region. Flipping the switch on the phase was like turning on and off the light. Huge differences in timber and output were achieved.

The important lesson is that bass needs to be focused on the seating position and can have negative interaction with the main speakers that can be phase corrected. This is a critical experiment that can yield a huge difference and it's free!!

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