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Intimate, warm and holographic alternative

Me another time... Sorry for the inconveniences.

Yes, recently I started a discussion here with the title: " ATC SCM150 (or JBL Synthesis) (or JBL vintage) (or new Klipsch Jubilee)". See: https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/atc-scm150-or-jbl-synthesis-or-jbl-vintage-or-new-klipsch-jub...
Last post from ohlala, advising that studio monitor type sound is not the most "enjoyable" for him, was revealing. I could hear yesterday an SCM20 (yes, I know it´s not comparable in many aspects with the SCM150) but the type of sound have not convinced me.

So now I´m more on the warm side, looking for a intimate and holographic sound with great scene. Really useful some old threadas about this, especially: https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/seeking-advice-on-speakers-that-create-an-intimate-2-channel-... 

I would like to hear personal opinions and experiences about the best speakers that give that musical sensation in which the devices "disappear". Suggestions, brand, models...

I was searching some brands and models and here are some that have caught my attention:

- Gershman Acoustics: Avant Garde
- Legacy Audio: Aeris + Wavelet
- Devore Fidelity: Orangutan O/96 (fatigue??; little too "in your face"??; fleshy bass??)
- Harbeth: 40.3 XD (not a true rock and roll speaker??)
- Klipsch
- Spendor
- Tannoy

Listening position is 9 feet from the speakers. My room is big: 41 square meters. I´m worried about bass. I hear a lot of music but specially rock, so I would like something capable.

Thanks so much to everyone. You are very helpful.

milhomes
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audioguy85
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This guy describes the Tannoy Legacy Eatons as sounding holographic....I’d have to agree, as I own them.

"What the Eatons did was to pick up the lead singer, Mark E. Smith, and drag him forward into new space. Then they placed air and space around him. I felt that I could have risen from my chair and walked around him. That was how crafted the image was. Not so much 3D as hologrammatic!

https://theaudiophileman.com/eaton/

Then there is this one:
"The soundstage of the Legacy Eaton was so spatious that I could take a swim in it. The old vinyl record of Count Basie’s orchestra acquired a completely new dimension as did the Ravels’’s Nocturne from Daphnis and Chloé (Serge Brando, Czech Philharmonics). The look into the pastoral landscaper was so seducing through the Legacy Eatons that I played the track several times in a row"
http://www.audiodrom.net/en/stand-mount-monitors/detail/29-stand-mount-monitors/576-tannoy-legacy-ea...
jdal
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Check out Bache Audio. I replaced my PK rebuilt Quad 57s with a pair of the Tribeca's. The 8 inch modified wide band driver that's used as a midrange produces an engaging holographic sound with a huge soundstage. The crossover is a simple cap on the tweeter and a coil for the woofers. Drive them with tubes with an analog front end with a Kiseki Purple Heart cartridge and you'll never want to turn the system off. 


mglik
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Juan,
What is your actual budget. Your suggested speakers are all lower price relatively. It is surely important to hear speakers before you buy.
This seems problematic. It is also important to hear a complete system in your space.
Building a system is extremely complicated. Another suggestion is MBL 111 s with a Pass XA 250.8.
And maybe with an Audio Kenesis Swarm subwoofer.
But just spending a lot does not insure a sound you will like.

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audioguy85
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Building a system is only as complicated as you make it😬....
Good clean power, a good amplifier/integrated matched to you speakers (considering impedance & efficiency and whether they have a warm, neutral or cold sound characteristics), quality cabling, a properly set up turntable/cartridge, a treated room ( no, i do not mean crazy sh#t hanging from walls and ceilings), proper speaker placement...thats it! It is not rocket science! Aaaand....no...you do not need a sub if you bought the right pair of speakers in the first place. Save the subs for the home theater please . You are destroying what the designer, engineer, builder, whatever....intended in the manufacturing of the speaker, why would you want to do that? Smh
jkf011
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Not sure you have the power but you are, to me, describing the Magnepan sound. Big room so 1.7i or bigger. Superb soundstage and transparency but need power. Love my 1.7is. I have a big open room so had to go the 2 sub route but if you have walls behind the speakers you'll have great bass a d likely won't need subs. Superb value too.  
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