What do we hear when we change the direction of a wire?


Douglas Self wrote a devastating article about audio anomalies back in 1988. With all the necessary knowledge and measuring tools, he did not detect any supposedly audible changes in the electrical signal. Self and his colleagues were sure that they had proved the absence of anomalies in audio, but over the past 30 years, audio anomalies have not disappeared anywhere, at the same time the authority of science in the field of audio has increasingly become questioned. It's hard to believe, but science still cannot clearly answer the question of what electricity is and what sound is! (see article by A.J.Essien).

For your information: to make sure that no potentially audible changes in the electrical signal occur when we apply any "audio magic" to our gear, no super equipment is needed. The smallest step-change in amplitude that can be detected by ear is about 0.3dB for a pure tone. In more realistic situations it is 0.5 to 1.0dB'". This is about a 10% change. (Harris J.D.). At medium volume, the voltage amplitude at the output of the amplifier is approximately 10 volts, which means that the smallest audible difference in sound will be noticeable when the output voltage changes to 1 volt. Such an error is impossible not to notice even using a conventional voltmeter, but Self and his colleagues performed much more accurate measurements, including ones made directly on the music signal using Baxandall subtraction technique - they found no error even at this highest level.

As a result, we are faced with an apparently unsolvable problem: those of us who do not hear the sound of wires, relying on the authority of scientists, claim that audio anomalies are BS. However, people who confidently perceive this component of sound are forced to make another, the only possible conclusion in this situation: the electrical and acoustic signals contain some additional signal(s) that are still unknown to science, and which we perceive with a certain sixth sense.

If there are no electrical changes in the signal, then there are no acoustic changes, respectively, hearing does not participate in the perception of anomalies. What other options can there be?

Regards.
anton_stepichev
The whole basis of this thread is cables have a sound that is directional.


There is only one thing missing. PROOF.  I think you can agree with me here Mahgister that this is a case where unbiased, somewhat scientifically valid testing must occur to validate the claim.


Otherwise it is just a lot of hot air.  This thread is pointless as the whole basis is purely presumption.
Real scientists either prove and peer review or find themselves in a 3rd rate college teaching those that could not get in anywhere else.
Your arrogance is wonderful....

Do you know Nikolai Kozirev?

Probably not....

and if you know him you will probably dismiss him , without even having the competence to dismiss his ideas...

You are not a physicist then your dismissal will be based on a "belief" in the general scientific consensus...

My point is some ideas of Kozirev are behind the inspiration source for the idea of the research group linked to Anton .... Am i right?

Only Anton can say.....


The whole basis of this thread is cables have a sound that is directional.
Unlike you i want to understand...

They are more than cable marketing war here...

We must LISTEN to someone before imposing a test on him...Politeness is necessary....Especially for a Russian in an english audio site....

Anton is not here to market a cable...THIS IS CLEAR TO ANYONE LOOKING AT HIS SITE.... This is not about synergetic research cable test here....Are you able to see the difference?

Anton is not an audiophile advocating about a branded name cable product.... You treat him like if he was one....

The Contour System – Directional Wiring of Audio Parts – Back To Music

The title of the site is about direction wiring OF AUDIO PARTS , not marketting of cables....


You complety throw the baby ( wire direction/hearing process/ electronic and a deep question about that) with the muddy waters of cable marketing....

Are you a scientist or a debunker of cable sellers? i am not sure anymore.....


This thread is pointless as the whole basis is purely presumption.
The 2 threads of Anton are LINKED to His site where are discussed his ideas and experiments....Nobody is in the obligation to believe him, but it is evident that there is experiments behind his ideas....

Reducing him to be a cables sellers waiting to be put a test on insulting.... He is not Ted Denney....He is someone devoted to some years long research without anything to sell here....

Before texting his ideas here which are complex one we must discuss and listen his explanations...

Is it not simple to understand?

If you are a scientist you will understand.... If you are a cable debunker after retirement say it i will know....
 
But probably if you are able to dismiss Essien who wrote his doctorate and after that a book to be a crook, you will do the same for anyone? Essien is not a crook even if he is completely wrong.... My definition of a "crook" is not  yours it seems....

 I hope i am wrong and i hope you are the scientist you seem to be for me.....
The very first post on this thread was by me. In the OP it was claimed there is only one conclusion.
the only possible conclusion in this situation: the electrical and acoustic signals contain some additional signal(s) that are still unknown to science, and which we perceive with a certain sixth sense.
I said there was another conclusion, bias. Now tell us what would be the "scientific" thing to do? Conduct a test to eliminate bias since it is another legitimate conclusion to his premise or continue on as if it's irrelevant? 
I am not interested at all by cables market...

Nor by cables promoters....

Nor by cables debunkers...

I am not interested by debates between these 2 categories of people...


I am interested by dedicated researchers, nevermind if they are wrong or right....I like good faith and truth....

Then those who reduce any debate to their own pettyness are not welcome under my gaze....



I am interested by understanding, sound, hearing, audio and others scientific and philosophical matters exceeding my own competence and anyway the competence of most of us  but very interesting for me anyway...