Why Do So Many Audiophiles Reject Blind Testing Of Audio Components?


Because it was scientifically proven to be useless more than 60 years ago.

A speech scientist by the name of Irwin Pollack have conducted an experiment in the early 1950s. In a blind ABX listening test, he asked people to distinguish minimal pairs of consonants (like “r” and “l”, or “t” and “p”).

He found out that listeners had no problem telling these consonants apart when they were played back immediately one after the other. But as he increased the pause between the playbacks, the listener’s ability to distinguish between them diminished. Once the time separating the sounds exceeded 10-15 milliseconds (approximately 1/100th of a second), people had a really hard time telling obviously different sounds apart. Their answers became statistically no better than a random guess.

If you are interested in the science of these things, here’s a nice summary:

Categorical and noncategorical modes of speech perception along the voicing continuum

Since then, the experiment was repeated many times (last major update in 2000, Reliability of a dichotic consonant-vowel pairs task using an ABX procedure.)

So reliably recognizing the difference between similar sounds in an ABX environment is impossible. 15ms playback gap, and the listener’s guess becomes no better than random. This happens because humans don't have any meaningful waveform memory. We cannot exactly recall the sound itself, and rely on various mental models for comparison. It takes time and effort to develop these models, thus making us really bad at playing "spot the sonic difference right now and here" game.

Also, please note that the experimenters were using the sounds of speech. Human ears have significantly better resolution and discrimination in the speech spectrum. If a comparison method is not working well with speech, it would not work at all with music.

So the “double blind testing” crowd is worshiping an ABX protocol that was scientifically proven more than 60 years ago to be completely unsuitable for telling similar sounds apart. And they insist all the other methods are “unscientific.”

The irony seems to be lost on them.

Why do so many audiophiles reject blind testing of audio components? - Quora
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you dont learn stuff like that from testing nerds. You get it in the field trying, failing and learning.

Extra extra: trying failing and learning is called testing. Nerds are people too as gear nuts prove every day.

Not sure what people are even arguing about. Just do your own tests your way when you choose. Or not. Its all good. May you test long and prosper!

Let’s just ban everyone so the world is a cooler place and more time to listen to, not test, all the wonderful hifis with golden ears.

Cheers!


^^^agree.

True double blind testing is not practical for the average consumer.

right?
Mapman - trying and failing is not testing.

Being in an actual race is not the same being on a test track.

if everything was a test, no car would fail at Le Mans. Duh.
Mapman - trying and failing is not testing.


Well more exactly its a failed test but so what?
I agree true double blind testing isn't practical for the average consumer.  I quit bothering with testing blind a few years ago.