Why Do So Many Audiophiles Reject Blind Testing Of Audio Components?


Because it was scientifically proven to be useless more than 60 years ago.

A speech scientist by the name of Irwin Pollack have conducted an experiment in the early 1950s. In a blind ABX listening test, he asked people to distinguish minimal pairs of consonants (like “r” and “l”, or “t” and “p”).

He found out that listeners had no problem telling these consonants apart when they were played back immediately one after the other. But as he increased the pause between the playbacks, the listener’s ability to distinguish between them diminished. Once the time separating the sounds exceeded 10-15 milliseconds (approximately 1/100th of a second), people had a really hard time telling obviously different sounds apart. Their answers became statistically no better than a random guess.

If you are interested in the science of these things, here’s a nice summary:

Categorical and noncategorical modes of speech perception along the voicing continuum

Since then, the experiment was repeated many times (last major update in 2000, Reliability of a dichotic consonant-vowel pairs task using an ABX procedure.)

So reliably recognizing the difference between similar sounds in an ABX environment is impossible. 15ms playback gap, and the listener’s guess becomes no better than random. This happens because humans don't have any meaningful waveform memory. We cannot exactly recall the sound itself, and rely on various mental models for comparison. It takes time and effort to develop these models, thus making us really bad at playing "spot the sonic difference right now and here" game.

Also, please note that the experimenters were using the sounds of speech. Human ears have significantly better resolution and discrimination in the speech spectrum. If a comparison method is not working well with speech, it would not work at all with music.

So the “double blind testing” crowd is worshiping an ABX protocol that was scientifically proven more than 60 years ago to be completely unsuitable for telling similar sounds apart. And they insist all the other methods are “unscientific.”

The irony seems to be lost on them.

Why do so many audiophiles reject blind testing of audio components? - Quora
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It sounds like you have the inside scoop on this Glubson.

And let me be straight with you dbag: if someone threatens me via PM telling me “I know where you work”, like your previous Audio2Design friend did, or David Letchworth, whatever, I will not back down and submit to the bully. I am not afraid of him. And go ahead and tell him, I mean what I said to him, if he does something to me. This is my livelihood, and will do everything I can to protect it, protect my family. Whatever it takes. Tell him. I will spend my last dime, take my own life, to do what I told him I will do. I promise you that. I mean it. Tell him. One word that threatens my family, and I am all in. I know who he is too. Tell him that too.
Blindtest has no significance save in blackbox situation for a researcher or statistically like in medical research...

In audio blindtesting is a circus most of the times save well organised for marketing reason....

One single audiophile dont need it.... I lived through hundred of single changes positives or negative or neutral in the last 2 years.... In this step by step listenings experiments i never needed an external authority over my ears...

Blindtest out of serious science is a circus.... If someone dont trust his ears in audio he is the one gullible to external tools negating the verdict of his own perception...

Any tool is a useful  slave but a useless master....



Pseudo scientists ideologue are like religious fanatics...Their alleged skepticism is a blind faith in fact.... True skepticism is a tool not a master....And beliefs are only roots you cannot all cut....Choose well....

Musical timbre perception is never a placebo, it is a learned bias....I dont doubt timbre....I doubt only speck of sound or ghost of music....

And anyway you dont doubt what you create yourself.... I never bought tweaks and i dont buy new cables....

And Glubson, I am pretty sure you read my reply to you after you reported and it was deleted. Two words for you my dbag: tell him. Let him bring it on. 
a reasonable man, shown data that destroys his beliefs will change his beliefs to fit the data.

audiophiles are not reasonable men.
not many people can be counted on to accept they're wrong.
they kick, scream, call you names.
doesn't change the facts.