Why is science just a starting point and not an end point?


Measurements are useful to verify specifications and identify any underlying issues that might be a concern. Test tones are used to show how equipment performs below audible levels but how music performs at listening levels is the deciding criteria. In that regard science fails miserably.

Why is it so?
pedroeb
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Proposing a simple experiment is not "claiming" something...

Insulting people is claiming our own stupidity.....

And my simple experiment was proposed in the context of this Galileo anecdote for illustrating it in a simple way...

Belief versus experiment....

Guess was the result save your insult?

An illustration of the way the zealot brain work....

I dont believe in "science" like yourself, i do my own listening experiments,i try to think with science then, i dont buy "tweaks" and i create all my device homemade or at almost no cost....

And by the way without being credulous i take the word of other with good faith and even trust here...Simple manner and simple openness of the mind....

If you report an experiment of yours i will listen, it is an audio thread about impressions and experiments... if you parrot "scientism" mantra to discredit experiments or someone  i will go my way....




You guys ever read Feynman? Great books. Great stories. One of em, whole bunch of top physicists sitting around a table at Los Alamos trying to figure out what is going on. First one nails it. Absolutely nails it. Brilliant. Makes total sense. Feynman is impressed.

Then they go around the table, each one talking about what else it could be. Feynman is puzzled. Can they not see we have the answer? Why are they going on like this? Surely we are not going to pick one of these wrong answers???!

Until when each one is done they all say well it is settled then, the first answer is right. And that is that.

As Feynman said, these were great men. They had the answer, but seriously explored all other possibilities, yet never losing track of the fact they had the answer. So that when they were done everyone was on the same page. Great men indeed.

Terrific story. Don’t know why I thought of it just now. Okay well actually I do.
" Test tones can show distortion and noise better than music. :

It doesn't.

Many amplifiers with very low THD numbers sound terrible. Many amps with bad THD numbers sound very good. 


Test tones are well chosen to stress the device under test.

That would have been very important if I wanted an amplifier to draw nice sinus curves on my oscilloscope. I don't. 


How much value you get from it is up to you.

Indeed. I can convince myself a bad sounding amp sounds good because it has a low THD. Or I can trust my ears and choose great sounding equipment on the basis of what it sounds to me.







The article on scientism is nonsense. I’ve read it, it’s so full of holes to be useless.

Of course you’d claim it’s nonsense. It exposes people like you.

The irony is that you don’t seem to have the presence of mind to realize that your posts are proof positive to everyone else on the forum that scientism is real.