Thiel 2.7 VS 3.7???

Jakegt3,

I have no doubt that what you heard side by side is true, but I will also guess there was either something wrong with that particular pair of 2.7's or they simply were not broken in all the way. One other thing I remembered about mine at one point early on was that as weird as it may sound, putting the floor spikes on with the lock nut & spikes snugged together and tightened up together, they sounded a bit what I may call congested. But with a small gap between the spike & lock nut,seemed to clear that up. Vibration transfer??

Anyway After 500 hrs of break in (over 600 now and still improving) they are just fantastic and never get confused or congested on anything I listen to. Soundstaging, instrument separation, transparency & dynamics are their strong suits.

I can only imagine the 3.7's being all that & more. That would be what I hope for the the additional cost. But to be sure, the 2.7's are amazing speakers.I hope you get a chance to hear them again somewhere else sometime to see what you think.

To all,

Thanks for the replies I have received so far, but also want to mention a possible direction change I may be considering as an alternative to the 3.7's to see what you may think?? I am thinging of adding a JL Audio F112 sub and just keeping the 2.7's.

Any thoughts on this route?? I want a sub to run full range with my speakers and be fast enough as not to muddy up the fast, taut speed of the 2.7's.

I know the Thiel Smart sub would also probably be a good (and logical) choice, but my dealer has a JL coming so??

What say yee all??

Thanks again!

The JL Audio subs are the best that I know of!, some may say, there is no such thing as best, well, after you listen to a broken-in JL audio sub, and tinker with the controls, you should be quite smitten!

I have a JL Labs sub and feel it works very well with my Nola speakers. I'm sure that you can get one to work with your speakers, too, it has a lot of adjustments you can make. I still think the Thiel sub might be a better choice, though, as it has a passive crossover that was designed to integrate with Thiel loudspeakers.

If extreme low bass is a high priority, then adding a sub is definitely an option. However, my experience with subs is that it can often be a messy business trying to get them to integrate optimally with the main speakers, depending on the sub you choose. There are potentially many parameters that need to be carefully managed to get it right: crossover frequency, crossover slope, sub placement with respect to room standing waves, sub placement with respect to the main speakers, crossover electrical phasing between the main speakers and sub, etc. I used a sub when I had Thiel CS2.3's, but it took a lot of work to get satisfactory results.

However, if you can manage the price differential, my opinion is that upgrading to CS3.7's will make a bigger overall improvement...not so much in the bass but in most other areas. On the other hand, if you are ready to spend $$, then you really should audition a bunch of other speakers to sample the alternatives.