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Classical music listening... what is a better source High Rez or Vinyl?

For many of us who really enjoy classical music, for me it is Baroque and opera, what is the better and more consistent for source high fidelity listening?

I am a mid hifi guy and have a Pro-ject Classic SB turntable with a high output MC Sumiko Blue Point No. 2 cartridge.. I am using a Jolida JD 9II Tube phone stage, with a vintage Telefunkin tube upgrade.

I have a Rogue Sphinx 3 integrated amplifier, with a vintage Mozada tube upgrade. My digital source DAC/SACD/CD is a Yamaha CD-2100 player.

I have refurbished Ohm H's loud speakers.

I have been picking up many vintage classical albums recently, mainly 1980’s releases in excellent condition too, at my local transfer station, and it has been mixed bag in comparison to my high resolution music files and SACD collection.

I was expecting much more when it came to vinyl and classical but I have not been as won over, as I have been with rock and jazz on vinyl.

My experience with SACD and high resolution, 96/24 or higher, has been very rewarding with a wide variety of classical music. Opera really shines in digital IMHO. Strong and full on classical piece are quite stunning on many a SACD releases I own. Rachel Podger’s Vivaldi: L’estro armonico - 12 concerti, Op. 3 on SACD is an excellent example of the audio quality I demand, as this recording is exceptional! Plus there are are very few new remastered vinyl releases for classical, particularly for opera, these days. A perfect example of this is Shubert’s Winterreise featuring Joyce DiDanato and pianist Yannick Nezet-Sequin, which I saw performed at Carnegie Hall for this recording and which sounds phenomenal in 96/24, and was release recently.

That would seem counter intuitive but that is clearly what the market is showing.

On one of these threads I recall someone posting how strings of violins, and the intensity that they are played at, can lead to degraded sound quality depending on the type of cartridge used.

I want to hear back from the classical music posse here to help me get to that higher level of listening with classical vinyl.

Is it the cartridge?

Or should I just stay with my digital sources?


idigmusic64
melm
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@bkeske

Cowboy Junkies ‎– The Trinity Session is a digital recording.  Surely there was a DAC somewhere in the process of producing the vinyl, that would have provided the same profound immersion, etc., as you found in the lp.  That is, unless you think there was something extra added in the process of producing the vinyl that was not in the original digital R-Dat recording and that provided all that good stuff..

Apparently mastering a CD is a process where things can go wrong, or at least not very right.  In that sense it is just like mastering an LP.  I have experienced what you have, that is an LP clearly outperforming digital.  I have also experienced the opposite.

Finally, though quality does not correlate perfectly with expense, generally speaking if you spent less on your DAC than you have spent on your turntable + arm + Cartridge + phono preamplifier it is not a fair comparison, IMO.


edcyn
1,876 posts
 
I have to admit that many of my London and Angel/EMI LPs, especially the operas, do sound better than anything I get either via CD or streaming. Then again, I have to reiterate that it's the original recording that ultimately counts, not the format with which the music wends its way to my ears.
frogman
7,467 posts
 
I agree re Decca/London and EMI recordings.  They are my favorites for the most realistic orchestral sound.  Kenneth Wilkinson was a wonderful engineer.  It is the recording that ultimately counts.  Having said that, for me, that same recording will almost always sound best on LP.  Btw, many of those London operas box sets are some of the greatest bargains out there.  They can still be found sometimes in bargain bins.  
petg60
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@idigmusic64,
forgive my late reply. A more revealing and refined cartridge would give you more in classical and jazz listenings also. Your phono stage can equaly accept both MM & MC, so you have plenty to choose from. At nearly the same pricing as the Sumiko you can check Dynavector 10X5, Hana EL, and Goldring 1042. All three would be a worthwile upgrade to the Blue Point.
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bkeske
5,597 posts
 
@melm

Cowboy Junkies ‎– The Trinity Session is a digital recording.

Who cares. The fact remains that it sounds better playing back on vinyl than any other digital source. My digital files/CD cannot compare. Not even close to my ears.

As I stated, I have a few classical vinyl albums from the 80’s that were proud of being digitally recorded (and they made sure to tell you on the cover). Does not mean I want the CD.

Enjoy what you will, as will I. And I continue to buy vinyl because of my preference regardless of whether it was recorded digital or analog. But, I have both, and listen to both.

Enjoy.




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