So you think wire conductors in cables are directional? Think again...

Too bad these conversations usually end up going sideways.

The threads get longer and longer, and useful information more and more tedious to eek out.

Question.  Once someone goes through a rebirth/reincarnation here on AGon, what age are they when they come back? Asking because the rebirthers seem to me a little bit dumber every cycle? Or perhaps this is because they are having to change their voice and writing style? Perhaps this is what is clouding the so-called message? Kind of like a little child pretending to be someone else on a phone call. They never make sense because the bulk of their thinking abilities are being allocated to sounding different.

" Electric charges typically flow as slowly as a river of warm putty. And in AC circuits, the moving charges don’t move forward at all, instead they sit in one place and vibrate."

Hi Edgewound
Seems like nonsense to me.
Suggest you buy a mile of cable.  Connect one end to the mains.
Connect other end to your hand.
Eat your lunch while you wait for the river of warm putty to reach your hand.
Reconsider your opinion.
Ho hum.

Design the system to avoid analog cables entirely...
Streamer (or any other digital sources) --- digital Coax---> DSP/DAC/Amp at the driver.
Analog cables are only needed for analog sources. All this fervor for a phono cable - the things are so inherently noisy, it couldn't possibly matter.
Cable and passive crossover discussions are mute, and should have been for decades - obsolete artifacts. Maybe you're arguing about technology your fathers and grandfather's used, or for changing speaker cone leads and re-wiring gear internals? From my perspective, go digital (1's and 0's aren't easily offended) all the way to each driver. Passive crossovers and analog cables are topics for the History Channel.

clearthinker360 posts   

05-16-2021   
 6:24am    

" Electric charges typically flow as slowly as a river of warm putty. And in AC circuits, the moving charges don’t move forward at all, instead they sit in one place and vibrate."

    
Had Edgewound read a little farther down the page he would have read this:

The size of the wiggle

And about AC... how far do the electrons move as they vibrate back and forth? Well, we know that a one-amp current in 1mm wire is moving at 8.4cm per hour, so in one second it moves:

8.4cm / 3600sec = .00233 cm/sec

And in 1/60 of a second it will travel back and forth by

= .00233cm/sec * (1/60)
= .0000389cm
or around .00002 in.

This simple calculation is for a square wave. For a sine wave we’d integrate the velocity to determine the width of electron travel.

So for a typical AC current in a typical lamp cord, the electrons don’t actually "flow," instead they vibrate back and forth by about a hundred-thousandth of an inch.

http://amasci.com/miscon/speed.html


Charge movers = electrons.


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