Why not horns?

eldartford4,262 posts05-24-2010 8:11amHerman... Sounding like trumpets is a quite precise description of what I find undesirable about horns. I think everyone will understand what I am saying, although they might disagree. As is often said on Audiogon, we couldn't care less about specs...it's how it sounds.

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While reaseraching the heck for info on the pair of 
Jesen alnico 1960's Tri ETTE speaker horns
I came across this upload of a  readable link to a  1960's magazine ad for 
I think Electro Voice or Jessen, The tech went onto say about his speakers,, ** the buyer is not the least interested in specs, graphs, only in how it acutally voices music, this is what we should be concern about making a  speaker**  Paraphrasing.

Listening to a  rough quick set up on the Jensen mid?? ot tweet? horn. The motor is nice  has a  rather large alnico magnet. 
Simuliar to the Magnoxov horn I have,  which sounded  STUNNING and realistic So based on this I went ahead and  bought the Jensen, hoping it would fill in to 1600hz  up to the 9k Magnovox horn. 
But I think its a  tweeter horn and from my superifical testing, not as clean, real as the Magnovox = perhaps a bad buy. Not sure til Richard figures out what we can do, right cap value and maybe find a  new horn, as the horn that came with the motor is a  cheap, thin rounded brass , like a tiny trumpet. 
I think horns are best for high fq's,. once you get into mids, it starts to sound like you say
*Trumpety*

My guess is the Voxativ AC1A will  reproduce the midrange I'm looking for over the horns ability to match this performance. 

I'm going to hold off buying up more horns , as I need to put that cash away for the AC1A's. 
Now will I need the Magnoxov tweeter horn to help out the AC1A in the highs?? 
Can not say for sure, as we know *Full* Range really does nopt mean *complete range*
I'm not concern about bass, as the W18E001's dual/each cabinet handle that range.
So even if the AC1A are a tad weak in the bass, its no real issue. 
If the AC1A does what folks are saying it does, I think the new Vox technology has *trumped* the older technology of midrange horns. 

I'm guessing my *Frankenstein* ( as Adam over at madisound has taged it) will be a  mix of ]
Low sens bass W18E001, 2000 release 
High sens Vox for mids  2020 design 
High sens Magnovox tweeter horn from the 1960's. 

Its hard to beat any of these 3 drivers in what they do.
Its like I am taking the best from all 3 speaker designs, blending  all in one
 *The  Frankenstein*

My favorite design.

Hello all as a newbie in this forum I spend my tyme reading not posting.
That being said I recently added another pair of horns JBL Synthesis 47s at first they were very harsh by harsh I mean mids and highs were overbearing. 
So I Tried a break in cd and wow way more in balanced. Also spent big on power conditioning and cords . So guess I'm saying no harder to integrate than other speakers it's the details that make it work!!

Also if your looking for a pair of horns that sound like a PA I've got a pair of cs99a's in the box I could never get quite right! 

Also if your looking for a pair of horns that sound like a PA I've got a pair of cs99a's in the box I could never get quite right!

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Most, at least I;'m guessing here, many of the new horns  have huge magnets, and my teck geek, warned me to avoid these new horn PA designs. 

~~~Just cranked up a  test cd, Schnittke Concerto Grosso 1/BIS.

The addition of Magnovox (thanks to Richard Gray's loaning). 
this 1963 horn tweeter with  a  small alnico magnet, really picks up details which any driver under say, 92db will voice only as a  background echo.
IMHO, a  horn tweeter will voice details and nuances  in a superior sensitivity making dome tweeters obsolete.
The only dome tweeter I know which will compete with a  nice horn tweeter is the Seas Exotic T35, rated 94db sens.