Thiel Owners


Guys-

I just scored a sweet pair of CS 2.4SE loudspeakers. Anyone else currently or previously owned this model?
Owners of the CS 2.4 or CS 2.7 are free to chime in as well. Thiel are excellent w/ both tubed or solid-state gear!

Keep me posted & Happy Listening!
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Guys - your input is valid and welcome. I don't claim to have answers, only observations.
Prof - I agree that the numbers seem odd. I go on what I sniff out, including Rob Gillum's input. The 2.7 uptick is due to re-emergent marketing under Steve DeFuria.
Beetle - I think you're on it. I know that early FST boards used ERSE coils, caps and resistors, which were made in China, but to very high standards including a best-of-form Japanese PP film, proper coil wire and winding, etc. Later FST including your SE boards have none of that. So quality was being compromized as time went on.
Robert - That 1500 count was from New Thiel reported to Rob. It may not be true or correct.
Jazzman - thank you for all the references. The review cycle goes like this: first production goes to dealers. Review samples come next which is often a few hundred pieces into the run. Thiel carefully tested and ensured those review samples were best of form. (Let's hold that ethical discussion till later.) It was rare for a product to be re-reviewed after a long time into its cycle and when that did happen, the reviewer would have been given home-brewed units with applicable updates. Of course it would be of great interest to directly compare a late FST product to a Lexington tweaked one - but I don't have that luxury. I have developed an opinion that the Lex versions with higher-grade parts and methods are better products.
tomthiel

Thank You for the detailed follow up. Very informative information on the CS 2.4, 2.4SE, 2.7 and CS 3.7 models. Keep researching and revealing here.

Happy Listening!
CS2.4 count update: Rob responded that there were about 2300 pairs of CS2.4s made, of which "only a few at the beginning were with Lex XO boards, before buying completed XOs from FST." That count makes more sense.

However it doesn't answer the quality decline riddle. I have (veiled) insider information that after Jim's death in 2009, and possibly earlier, Kathy cut costs in all the products. It is likely that she authorized the change from propylene to mylar caps and lesser coils. Just speculating on who and when, but we do know the what - some later versions were lower quality than earlier ones.

What I would love to know is whether Wes Philips 1991-1992 pair has Thiel or FST XOs and at what quality level. Reviews don't get much better than that one, and Wes was about as good as reviewers get. I'll see if I can tease an answer to that riddle out of Rob. More later. 
Beetle- regarding odd 2.4SE variants. Rob has done lots of customer upgrades from stock to SE xo status, either at his shop or providing parts and supervising. He uses CC SA caps, according to the original design when the SA was CC’s best. The CSA is a league up, but n my opinion.
tomthiel

Thank You for the CS 2.4 confirmation. I miss Wes (R.I.P.). His review is one for the ages.

Happy Listening!