Why don't more recordings have soundstage outside of speakers


I always enjoy it when the recording has mixing that the instruments are well outside of the speakers.  I think it's really cool and what justifying spending extra dollars for the sound.  I just wish more recordings would do that.  Most of them would just have the sound from in between the speakers.

What are some of your favorite recordings that have an enveloping soundstage well outside of the speakers?
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pragmasi,
I gave ya the answer above. Okay, I gave ya a hint.  What happens when the sound from the left speaker reaches the right ear? What happens when the sound from the right speaker reaches the left ear?  The sound from the other speaker not gonna magically disappear. The studio tricks aren't exaggerating stuff, they are just crude noise cancellation, cept the noise is the other speaker. Those tricks let each ear hear only one speaker sort a, just like headphones. Reflections got nothing to do with it cept creating false images. Sounds real good too. Most people like it. Makes it feel like you are there. But get carried away and what's in front of you, the important stuff, starts to sound like crap.
I dont have tube amplifier....I own a good S.S. Sansui AU 7700...

Room passive treatment and active control cannot be replaced by good equipment nor good equipmewnt could be replaced by acoustic active  devices and surfaces panels...

There is no way to short the path to the goal.....
I gave ya the answer above. Okay, I gave ya a hint. What happens when the sound from the left speaker reaches the right ear? What happens when the sound from the right speaker reaches the left ear? The sound from the other speaker not gonna magically disappear. The studio tricks aren’t exaggerating stuff, they are just crude noise cancellation, cept the noise is the other speaker. Those tricks let each ear hear only one speaker sort a, just like headphones. Reflections got nothing to do with it cept creating false images. Sounds real good too. Most people like it. Makes it feel like you are there. But get carried away and what’s in front of you, the important stuff, starts to sound like crap.
This does not correspond at all to my experience with my room controls..

Sorry for ytour obsession with "tricks"....

A coherent working with an optimal timing of the waves for each ears can do magic....

A tuning of the room with resonators distributed relatively to the speakers characteristic bass driver bandwidth and tweeter bandwidth response in the treated room can do magic....

A coherently working magic manifesting itself differently relatively to each recording but always staying coherent is not an acoustical "flaw" it is what i call control AT WILL....

You seem very used to work with TOOLS and digital format processing, but working with a specific room and ONLY mechanical devices and our ears it is not the same experience sorry....

A room acoustic is easier to solve by the ears than by the complex equation describing it....It cost nothing....And if is tuned relatively to the users ears....And timbre is not a sum of frequencies only on a dial, timbre is an experience in a room for some ears....
Unless your coherent working or whatever ya want to call it can get a reflection from the right speaker to the left ear one head length later than the sound from the left speaker and invert it as well, then it ain't going to do what you think it does. I can't make it any simpler for ya.
Unless your coherent working or whatever ya want to call it can get a reflection from the right speaker to the left ear one head length later than the sound from the left speaker and invert it as well, then it ain’t going to do what you think it does. I can’t make it any simpler for ya.
You are so clever...Not only i use reflective and diffusive surface but also the diffusive and dampening properties of the resonators BUT,

You miss my important use of the marking out asymmetrically from each bass driver and each tweeter differently by the resonators some of which are very near the driver and the tweeter but in an asymmetrical way, making easier for the brain to compute the directions from each speaker for each ears in the way you just suggested... 😊

No need to compute the equation, just use your ears to tune it like i did successfully with a 10 weeks of listenings experiments .... It is finished....It was fun and rewarding....I call that listenings experiments in acoustic....

By the way the taste is in the pudding....No way to claim anything if you do not do it.....A tuned room-speakers+ ears system is not an electronical equalizer and the brain dont equalize like a tool do it....


Like you said, " I can’t make it any simpler for ya." the brain "taste" the reflections and the direct sound timing and detect the way each waves has worked his way from each speakers differently...Thanks to my resonators locations and tuning....And my use of reflecting surfaces and diffusive devices....

Called that a "trick" if it suit you, like you called my research paper, just an "hypothesis", i call that experiment in acoustic.... Cost: peanuts.....