Tube vs. Solid State Amplifiers


I found this really good link regarding the differences:

https://www.caryaudio.com/2018/06/04/vacuum-tube-vs-solid-state/

I've heard some (who are much more knowledgeable than me) say that a tube amp and solid state amp which are rated at the same output power in practice will not drive a speaker to the same level, that in selecting amplifier power levels, you would get similar results from lower powered tube amps.

I thought it would be interesting to see what those who know much more about this subject would contribute to this discussion.
ejr1953
Well if it isnt the super special retired at 40
 guy !!! Yay !!. Clearly you have too much time on your hands. You still have not learned to do a little background on someone before you go on bumping your gums into uncharted T and make a fool of yourself.
AGD chose me because this is a company of substance not façade. Truth and not charade. Same reason I chose AGD. It just so happened they represent the most cutting edge amplifier technology in this industry. While AGD values cosmetic as art, and decided to create the physical embodiment of their circuits within functional sculpture is something that clearly exists in the strata above your melon. (Melone in Italian) People who are passionate about music do not consider anything visual when critiquing how good music sounds. Its why the worlds Artists can look however they want. Something called freedom of expression. Clearly you feel threatened by this so you blindly lash out against it. Art freaks you out because you dont understand it. So what does your super special retired at 40 rhetoric get you here ? Jack Stool. You just missed out on what very well may be the highest performing amplifier yet experienced in HiFi. You let your unfounded, premature judgement of someone you do not know blind you. Very irresponsible and completely passe. Its Anger Management circa 1987. I can tell you right now AGD is not a brand for you. Our switching speed is too high. We have no compatible resonance. McIntosh is your amp. Its got great resale value and everybody knows what it is, right ? Yes. People that understand AGD dont require an exit clause, we know its staying. We knew it 5 minutes into listening. Parting words of wisdom to the guy in early retirement trying to understand HiFi.
The best products in this industry are the ones you’ve never heard of. By the time they become so popular, everyone knows them, its too late . The company has been sold to bankers and the product has had the soul bled from it.


If sticking a candle in the middle of an ashtray can be considered art then your spot on.

  I dont buy ANY gear regardless of how it sounds (Amp or Speaker) if I dont like the appearance as well. Not alone in that category.
   Sorry but if I owned SAKS on 5th avenue I wouldnt hire Oscar Madison to be the Clerk behind the Louis Vuitton counter.
   No anger here. Nothing to be angry about. Just observation. Cutting edge?? Product is already 4-5 years old.

   I dont own any Mcintosh gear and I havent since my very 1st purchase...live and learn.
Hate to be crotchety here but artistic expression in Industrial Design is secondary to making money. A lot of research and design by Volkswagen, Apple, etc… is to determine an aesthetic that will drive consumerism. If a manufacturer misses the mark in terms of it’s Industrial or Graphic Design, that determiner is supported primarily by a lack of revenue. Aesthetic principles however should support the functionality of the product, just as Set Design should support the play it was created for. There have been numerous times when I’ve found certain products to be less than visually appealing however they sold well and so there was no incentive for the manufacturer to change its appearance. So to each his own but for the company, it’s just a business decision.
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Ive got about 15 amps and at least Half are Tube Amps. Never commented on your appearance at all. I have NO IDEA what you look like nor do I care. Maybe I should have said RUDY from "Used Cars" instead to get the point across.

Jay wants you to post another 1000 word Tirade on his thread all in 1 sentence again. It will be completely ignored just like the last one. Nobody cares about what you think anymore than they care what my opinion of the appearance of these amps are.

Best of luck moving your "art". 4-5 years and hardly anybody has ever heard of them. If they were a Vinyl Record they would be in the Cutout Bin. If smoking comes back in vogue I’ll order some of those ashtrays from you. You wont be pocketing $3000+ per pair from me though. PT Barnum indeed.

If these amps are so wonderful and you have total conviction why are you not re-investing all those people's money and put it into ADVERTISING??? Thats how one makes a product become KNOWN....not word of mouth from the same 3 guys on Audiogon who are obviously shilling for you. Put your money where your mouth is...Business 101.