kren0006,
Let's be objective and honest. Yes, my views on audio are fringe and freakishly outside the norm. But they are not worthless to some people who realize that I know what I am talking about. I am glad chazzzy came around to value my insights. Electrostatic speakers are enjoyed by only a few, certainly not mainstream a-philes. There are some people like me who value clarity above all else, and are willing to compromise bass power and extension. You are right that most people on this thread have your preferences rather than mine. That doesn't make my views WORTHLESS. That word is still another of your many words with a negative connotation that show that you either do not recognize nor care about your own hostility and negativity towards me. You don't admit to the truth of anything I said in my last long post, whereas I can agree with you to a certain degree on what you just said in your last post. Also, since you said, "I know that offends you" this tells me that you will say whatever you want and don't care if it offends me. I am an honest straight shooter like you, but I have made progress in stating my views without offending people. Ron17, pokey77, and even rbach have made valid points about this and have helped me. However, your continued antagonistic words to me don't help my communications to you and do put me on the defense with you. That is one of my weak points, true, but I have a higher opinion of those people than you on this subject.
You are entitled to think, "I’m not going to lie and pretend differently about how I view your audio assessments or the audio notions you promote." The best thing to do is to keep these thoughts in your head, off this thread, and be respectful of me publicly here. But your next statement is good--"And I am not claiming to be any sort of expert and it’s only one person’s opinion." Just don't be the unelected censor of what you think Jay or anyone else wants to hear and avoid. Moderators do that, and they are mainly on the lookout for offensive remarks.
As for the audio fringe, most any of the a-philes here would be judged by the mainstream mid-fi and low-fi community to be on the fringe. That's axiomatic, a statement of fact by the number of highenders vs lowenders. No a-phile here is ashamed of being in the fringe of the mainstream world, and they rightly embrace it. But the defining characteristic of audiophiles is not how much money they spend, but their care and attention to subtleties and SOTA innovation. It just so happens that innovators in any field have been on the fringe. They do things that the mainstream thought were nuts, in part because the mainstream wanted to protect their status quo and was envious that the innovator got there first. There is some old wisdom about new things--first they are denied, then ridiculed, then grudgingly accepted as possibly true, then embraced as everyone wants to cash in or benefit from what's new and better. Actually, I was like that with early digital. My analog setup was better and digital was lousy. Almost 40 years later, I now embrace digital sound for its precision, even if sometimes there are unnatural digital artifacts. Things are getting better and better.
I hope you get better and better.
Let's be objective and honest. Yes, my views on audio are fringe and freakishly outside the norm. But they are not worthless to some people who realize that I know what I am talking about. I am glad chazzzy came around to value my insights. Electrostatic speakers are enjoyed by only a few, certainly not mainstream a-philes. There are some people like me who value clarity above all else, and are willing to compromise bass power and extension. You are right that most people on this thread have your preferences rather than mine. That doesn't make my views WORTHLESS. That word is still another of your many words with a negative connotation that show that you either do not recognize nor care about your own hostility and negativity towards me. You don't admit to the truth of anything I said in my last long post, whereas I can agree with you to a certain degree on what you just said in your last post. Also, since you said, "I know that offends you" this tells me that you will say whatever you want and don't care if it offends me. I am an honest straight shooter like you, but I have made progress in stating my views without offending people. Ron17, pokey77, and even rbach have made valid points about this and have helped me. However, your continued antagonistic words to me don't help my communications to you and do put me on the defense with you. That is one of my weak points, true, but I have a higher opinion of those people than you on this subject.
You are entitled to think, "I’m not going to lie and pretend differently about how I view your audio assessments or the audio notions you promote." The best thing to do is to keep these thoughts in your head, off this thread, and be respectful of me publicly here. But your next statement is good--"And I am not claiming to be any sort of expert and it’s only one person’s opinion." Just don't be the unelected censor of what you think Jay or anyone else wants to hear and avoid. Moderators do that, and they are mainly on the lookout for offensive remarks.
As for the audio fringe, most any of the a-philes here would be judged by the mainstream mid-fi and low-fi community to be on the fringe. That's axiomatic, a statement of fact by the number of highenders vs lowenders. No a-phile here is ashamed of being in the fringe of the mainstream world, and they rightly embrace it. But the defining characteristic of audiophiles is not how much money they spend, but their care and attention to subtleties and SOTA innovation. It just so happens that innovators in any field have been on the fringe. They do things that the mainstream thought were nuts, in part because the mainstream wanted to protect their status quo and was envious that the innovator got there first. There is some old wisdom about new things--first they are denied, then ridiculed, then grudgingly accepted as possibly true, then embraced as everyone wants to cash in or benefit from what's new and better. Actually, I was like that with early digital. My analog setup was better and digital was lousy. Almost 40 years later, I now embrace digital sound for its precision, even if sometimes there are unnatural digital artifacts. Things are getting better and better.
I hope you get better and better.
