FULL RANGE vs. SUBWOOFER+NO FULL RANGE


Hi all, I'd like to know what is better for symphonic music with a budget of $2500 for the speakers: full range speakers or speakers + separate subwoofer, or speakers with build in powered subwoofers. can I get high-end sound with any of this configurations within my speaker budget? which combinations would you recommend me in this budget for my musical tastes? your help on this matter will be greatly appreciated! Thanks.
jair2fdc
$2500.00 get full range used Josephs or something similar.Good luck.

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Well thats what we are trying/attempting to define here. 
*Full Range*
20hz- 20hz.
Who cares about 20 hz, 20k hz, I certainly do not. 
The 20hz area holds zero interest, neither above 15khz.
There is so little of our music in that range which is a mute point.
Full range to me is midrange. Where 90%++ of our music is   voiced. 
My objective is how can i achieve the least distortion and most realistic soundstage = Presence, that i can possible afford.
Thus the only speaker for me out of the thousands of canadidates would be Point Source aka Full Range = High Sensitivity. 
As I say the 20hz and 20hz is all baloney. 
Mozartfan,

we get it, you found the wholy grail of speakers while browsing youtube.


I could never live witha sub bass, grate my nerves,
I need ~~Musical bass~~, huge difference,
Subs are wonderful for HT/Star Wars movie effects,
Of all the dumb things you repeatedly say, and the list is pretty long, this is right up there for the award as the dumbest. Congrats!

mozartfan
900 posts
06-23-2021 6:19am
"I could never live witha sub bass, grate my nerves,
I need ~~Musical bass~~, huge difference,...+

I wanted "musical" bass which is why I chose the Rel sub.
for symphonic music

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Please read the OP carefully
CM does not require a  HT effect Sub woofer.
This is what he is after,  pure  music, nothing less. 
The only speaker I know that makes pure fidelity for CM is full range/high sens point source drivers. 
I've been experimenting  with various FR single point and have made this discovery. 
THe OPer could not understand what the potential and limitations of these speakers were in real time.
He was asking  the board to share their expiences of Point Source High Sens speakers.
There is no other speaker technology that will  meet the demands voicing CM.
The music is rich, detailed, complex and demands a  speaker that  will meet these challenges head on with no fatigue. 
Other drivers fall apart during the critical passages,  and we are left with a  mushy mess.
Not sure why there is no love for the new technology. 
I find this a  bit odd.