Vandersteen 2CE Vs. Von Schweikert VR-2100


I had previously posted a thread looking for $1000 or under speakers to pair with Sunfire 300x2 amp, Sunfire Theatre Grand II pre, with high qualty interconnects and speaker wire. Great posts, thanks. This is for a smaller room in an apartment and two channel only. Anyone have direct experience with these two? I can get the Vandersteens cheaper (due to pickup vs. shipping) and am unfamiliar with either speaker. I am also considering something from Ohm Walsh but not seeing anything for sale of interest. I listen to mostly jam band (dead, phish, sci, wsp) and alternative/rock stuff. Mostly good to great quality recordings. I need full sound with solid bass, not really cranking it up. Thanks.
walstib
Walstib, I have a pair of 2ci, not the ce sigs so I don't know how the two compare, but, I don't care much for them. They do have great bass, they don't fatigue me and they do some magic tricks but I prefer more detail and pin point imaging, which the 2ci didn't do for me. I do see there appeal, it just wasn't really my cup of tea :-)
I think there are many nice speakers out there for under $1k. I don't have much experience with dynaudio or tekton but they both get great reviews. I just picked myself up a pair of kef qx5's for $1k and so far, I really like them quite a bit :-)
Reading your original post again, I agree that the vandies may not be the best for rock. Drums were very laid back with slightly rolled off highs. Percussions didn't have much impact and cymbals were pretty quiet. I'm comparing them to my paradigm studio's with sounded great with rock music.
B limo, Which 2Ci do you have? If you have the soft dome tweeter they are very old speakers and there is a good chance they are not working properly. Imaging should not be an issue with Vandersteens unless your drivers are not matched.
Rrog i would say its more that he didnt have em spiked
with proper tilt back as in the manual.
JohnnyR
I can't comment on the Vandy 2's, but I've had many years of wonderful listening to the Grateful Dead through my old Vandy 1C's. First driven by Arcam electronics, and then by my Rogue Audio Cronus, the 1C's were perfect for me. Positioning, however, is critical to get any Vandersteen speaker to sound its best. Proper toe-in, vertical tilt, and freedom from rear and side walls are all very important, and the well written Vandersteen manuals offer great explanations. Good Luck with your search, and Happy Listening !
"B limo, Which 2Ci do you have? If you have the soft dome tweeter they are very old speakers and there is a good chance they are not working properly. Imaging should not be an issue with Vandersteens unless your drivers are not matched."

I have to agree. I'm pretty sure that the 2Ci's were current in the 80's. Not to get off topic, but they can be upgraded. I think Vandersteen can turn them into Sig 1's, but not Sig 2's. Also, with regards to imaging, every component in the system is part of the equation. Its not always the speakers fault if the system doesn't image well. I have an old Rowland amp that I use on occasion. When I plug it into the system, I lose all sense of depth. Its completely flat. I have no idea why, either. Thats just the way it is.