dkarmeli334 posts01-05-2014 11:07amYou're right if the system can play classical music well then it can easily play everything else! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Yes, any speaker can perform light jazz/medium orchestra jazz. Full jazz orchestra, not just any old speaker will do. CM requires ~~finesse/delicacy in full midranfe fq's. I May have found one. Not sure, but I think so. |
atmasphere9,559 posts10-27-2020 11:36amYour taste in music will have nothing to do with the speaker, since what makes it good for classical will also make it good for rock, metal, jazz, folk and so on. This is because its impossible to make a speaker favor a certain genre; if someone is able to do so they would be a millionaire overnight!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Humbly disagree, Any speaker can play R&R, blues, grundge, hiphop, reggie Jazz requires a bit more finesse. CM (at least full blown symphony orchestra) requires even more finesse/nuances/fidelity vs all other musical genres. Full symphony orchestra requires a ~~special speaker~~Midrange demanding. |
johnnyb533,510 posts01-07-2014 9:53am I disagree based on experience to the contrary. It's relatively easy to find speakers that sound compelling with an acoustic jazz trio or quartet. Feed them a 100-piece orchestra and listen to them serve up inarticulate mush. Throw in a pipe organ and 8-part choir and it's just sonic wallpaper. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hey Jonny ~~sonic walpaper~~~, Full orchestra had me thinking the other day, , well as of 2019/late. That there seems to be some subtle passages with flutes, harps, percussion, which is not being voiced properly so i can hear it, I had to strain my ears. Sure recording engineers are partly to blame. Of course its in the score, as a lightly played passge, amongst a roaring orchestra. My guess is if I ever find this magical speaker than can detect, voice these tinest notations from winds, percussion, any other lightly touched passage. it will be something. So my search went on and on,,, Midrange, here is where i need to concentrate. Lets take bass/highs off the table for a moment. |
cd3181,719 posts10-27-2020 2:22pmClassical music is a far more demanding genre - from my point of view. My desire that a system can reproduce accurate timbre ( not washed out as is all too common) far outweighs its other qualities, such as imaging, or collosal dynamics etc. This possibly exaggerated desire for tonal colour leads me to believe I might have some form of chromesthesia (sound-color synesthesia). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromesthesia#:~:text=Chromesthesia%20or%20sound-to-color,associatio.... Classical music especially, without good instrument timbres, is difficult for me to enjoy, whereas with rock I'd be looking for great dynamics or for pop it might be a great midrange. Classical music with good timbral expression on the other hand becomes a joy. Especially piano and strings. So I think it's a question of finding a speaker that excels at that quality that's most important to you. All loudspeakers are not created equal, and few, if any, can do everything right. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Yes a speaker that is all in all perfection, is not a reality. Unless you want to go 3 way horn witha 15 inch woofer, Price? Weigyht/size? wife friendly? = not a option, Oh yeah it has every fq range you could ever want/ wish for. But these masssive horns present road blocks. **CM ~~Timbral expression ~~tonal colors~~~ Yes This is all midrange. Here is where we ought to focus and forget about bass/highs. Super highs are more for ambience than actually in the music. That isa super tweeter perhaps falsifies the actual highs within the music, ie classical composition. Do we want these shimmers, and sparkles? Yes we do. But lets forget the sparkles and concentrate exclusively on midrange Here is where the heart and soul of CM lies. I can find bass and high add on speakers, thats no big issue. its the massive amount of midrange fq's where we need to stay focused. Perahps there are a few single drivers that have capability to voice these wide band midrange with some degree of success. As box/xover speakers have failed in presenting symphony orchestra as it will be required. That is, nothing hidden, nunaces heard in flutes, soft cellos, hidden harp passages, This is the midrange we will need to make classical music come to life. |
