As i said my opinion only. I put in some of Herbies/Gliders under a pair Merlin TSMXe speakers, on Osiris speakers stands. I let them settle for 5 days before listining. Bottom line i did not like them, too thin sounding, something just did not sound right. Called Bobby at Merlin, said DO NOT UNCOUPLE speakers from spikes. He said for his speakers they must be coupled to floor thru the spikes. Kept the Coplers, using under some BDR Racing cones on different equipment. Like thet say YMMV.