Your opinions about KOETSU URUSHI BLUE or VERMILLION


Hi I plane to buy a new cartridge, a KOETSU URUSHI BLUE or VERMILLION. But I would like to get your opinions on what is really the diffrences with BLUE and VERMILLION , Speaking of sound of course. I listen to all kind of musique, classical, very heavy rock. My others cartridges are ZYX OMEGA and BENZ LPS, do you think that the KOETSUs will get the same bass power than my others cartridges ?
Thanx


andychris
tkr, it is that euphoric quality that some of us love about the Koetsu's. You would have to add a lot of weight to the SME V to get the bass right.
I use my Koetsu for string quartets and the like not for R+R and rarely for Jazz. The other cartridges I use are more neutral and to my ear more accurate not to mention better trackers (more accurate is not equal to better sounding.)
I think you misunderstood my post. Actually, I had no problems with the bass of the Sky Blue at all. As I wrote, the Sky Blue had a great bass "slam" and dynamics. 
My problem was that it sounded a bit too warm and cuddly or, if you want, euphonic.
My solution was to upgrade to a Koetsu Coralstone, which is a totally different beast. 
The Vermilion does *not* have silver-plated copper wire.

"This is the only Urushi cartridge that uses a double-coil winding of silver-and-copper – not silver-plated copper – and the coils here are made with fewer turns. Thus it has the lowest output of any Koetsu at 0.2mV, and half that of any other Urushi."

https://www.hifinews.com/content/koetsu-urushi-vermillion-cartridge

I have heard great things about it and it's the one I would buy, shopping at that level for a Koetsu. Hopefully next year. 

Found the following on the Whest audio site:

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thought I'd share a few short words about the ART20 cartridge that I have had on my turntable for approximately 30 hours.  This ART20 replaces my Koetsu Urushi Vermillion MC as a 'stop gap' while the whole cartridge gets a rebuild because of a damaged coil.  Well 30 hours into this ART20 and I can tell you that it is far better than the KU Vermillion in every respect.  The separation is incredible and makes the Koetsu sound strident and nearly mono.  I am really quite shocked at the difference because I have recordings made on my Tascam DA3000 in DSD (dual-mono) and comparing the 2 cartridges even after recording the ART20 shows the ART20 to be far superior.

I am incredibly surprised and shocked.  I certainly won't be listening to my Koetsu dealer after this as he said there is NO WAY the Audio Technica ART20 could be better.

Brinkmann Bardo/ Brinkmann 10.5" arm/ ART20/ TITAN Pro II
Dr J P Benson - Edinburgh

 

@theophile  No big surprise. The build quality of Koetsus are nothing special. They also require a very heavy tonearm. The ART20 probably suites his tonearm better. If I were to get a stone body Koetsu I would put it in a 4 Point 14 which means I would have to buy another table. Not happening.  There are many cartridges that are better than the ART 20. The ART 20 is a great cartridge for the money assuming it is built well. I have not been able to look at one but I have looked at other AT cartridges and their quality control can fail on occasion.  When I say looked at I mean examined under both low and high power magnification with special lighting. I look at SRA under load, and stylus quality and mounting. It is much easier to mount and align a well built cartridge and the fact that a cartridge is well constructed is very reassuring.