Thiel Owners


Guys-

I just scored a sweet pair of CS 2.4SE loudspeakers. Anyone else currently or previously owned this model?
Owners of the CS 2.4 or CS 2.7 are free to chime in as well. Thiel are excellent w/ both tubed or solid-state gear!

Keep me posted & Happy Listening!
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Tom - that guy knows his wire, and consider his background at Belden. I'd love to hear his wire.
He reminds me of my first aha speaker cable experience at CES around 1978. (This post repeats some earlier references, but 200+ pages deep and some new folks might like hearing . . . ) Kimber and Thiel were fairly new companies, before "wire" had become a component. We were using 00 welding cable for speaker wire. A bunch of serious guys had congregated in our CES exhibit room the night before opening. Ray had this braided stuff to submit to critique. Its sell price would be around $1000/pair foot due to all its exoticacies. (in 2021 dollars, about $3700/ pair foot.) Wow! the sonic upgrade was stunning to everyone in the room. We exhibited with it, and took some flack from reviewers and dealers for using $30K speaker cables with our 03 being introduced at around $900/pair. That experience focused our attitude that each upstream component bears its own responsibilities for signal purity. We generally fed our speakers a much more expensive signal than norms would suggest.

Does anyone here use braided flat wire? either Kimber or others? I know it's extremely expensive to make well, and I'd like to hear if anyone is succeeding with it.
TT
Tom - that's the real deal. There's always plenty more to learn than most of us can absorb. That's beyond my scope, but if you dive in, I'd love to hear your summaries as time might allow.
TT
Galen is like a perpetual motion machine..there is 0 time delay between his mind and his mouth.
A flow of information.

The video is long but well designed and executed.

Makes me rethink my Coaxial based RG6 cables each a separate single wire of a pair. Each cable surrounded by S70 microbearing shield,  there for a combination of RF and vibration burn off.
Did Galen speak of resonance or mechanical shielding of the wire in acoustic space? What happens under the bombardment inside a speaker box? What change may there be? Tom



That NASA software is most likely beyond my mind and computer..
Will look into it especially for anything concerning boundary layers of solid surfaces and air flow.

After all the listening room is a big speaker cabinet with many objects that create turbulence while at the same time  reducing laminar flow. Tom

I might have gotten distracted at some points during video. Does he address foils or ribbons? It would seem that such a shape would address many of the concerns mentioned. Is Belsen capable of such a shape on an economical level? Was such a shape disqualified for reasons other than absolute performance? Towards the end, he was quite candid about how the pricing was determined by competition for space and time with other unrelated products. Would a leaner more focused company be able to offer better value? 
 @tomthiel  I think Wireworld’s (w/ former Straightwire designer) more recent products might qualify as braided flat wire designs? Would such a design introduce inconsistent contact and strand jumping? Alpha-Core’s twisted more solid core “purled” approach without the staggered, overlapping of braiding would seem to offer much of the advantages with less of the disadvantages?