Thiel Owners


Guys-

I just scored a sweet pair of CS 2.4SE loudspeakers. Anyone else currently or previously owned this model?
Owners of the CS 2.4 or CS 2.7 are free to chime in as well. Thiel are excellent w/ both tubed or solid-state gear!

Keep me posted & Happy Listening!
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Galen is like a perpetual motion machine..there is 0 time delay between his mind and his mouth.
A flow of information.

The video is long but well designed and executed.

Makes me rethink my Coaxial based RG6 cables each a separate single wire of a pair. Each cable surrounded by S70 microbearing shield,  there for a combination of RF and vibration burn off.
Did Galen speak of resonance or mechanical shielding of the wire in acoustic space? What happens under the bombardment inside a speaker box? What change may there be? Tom



That NASA software is most likely beyond my mind and computer..
Will look into it especially for anything concerning boundary layers of solid surfaces and air flow.

After all the listening room is a big speaker cabinet with many objects that create turbulence while at the same time  reducing laminar flow. Tom

I might have gotten distracted at some points during video. Does he address foils or ribbons? It would seem that such a shape would address many of the concerns mentioned. Is Belsen capable of such a shape on an economical level? Was such a shape disqualified for reasons other than absolute performance? Towards the end, he was quite candid about how the pricing was determined by competition for space and time with other unrelated products. Would a leaner more focused company be able to offer better value? 
 @tomthiel  I think Wireworld’s (w/ former Straightwire designer) more recent products might qualify as braided flat wire designs? Would such a design introduce inconsistent contact and strand jumping? Alpha-Core’s twisted more solid core “purled” approach without the staggered, overlapping of braiding would seem to offer much of the advantages with less of the disadvantages?
Unsound - I don't know much about particular products. What little I do know says that for braided wire to work as designed, it must stay extremely quiet internally, and that's no small task. Straightwire's Bflat (I believe) preceded Wireworld's entry and was abandoned due to those difficulties (near impossibilities) of keeping flexible strands functionally rigid. Kimber filled the gaps with silicone which had to be applied to each strand and then rolled to form a filled web with no thick or thin spots. Sounds tedious.
I know that Jim ended up with Goertz flat wire (late 2000s) as his best, affordable and reliable solution. Please tell me more about Alpha-Core's approach.
Tom - I prefer to consider the room as a separate entity due mostly to how our aural neurology manages the inputs. Signals less than 5 to 10 milliseconds are conflated into a single onset transient. The longer that initial signal emanates, the more slurred the transient sounds. Longer delays are clearly understood as reflections and the geometry and contents of the room are associated with those reflections and carry relatively low weight in synthesizing the sonic event.

Rooms contribute much more than most people give credit. Room acoustics and treatment brings far more value than most folks think. But, the speaker-maker must draw his line somewhere. In the early days, we spent lots of effort deciding between directional, omni, bi or di pole radiation, etc. We landed on a broad polar pattern that mimics (fairly well) how a real singer or acoustic instrument radiates into the room. Thiel's relatively omni-directionality makes nearby room objects more important than many other polar patterns. But we believe it produces the most natural presentation. YMMV. So, for Thiel, the first side-wall or ceiling/floor reflection is more important than with a pro speaker that limits dispersion to 120°. Beyond that, I have found that diffusion techniques solve lots of problems without the down-sides of absorption.

I don't know how much laminar flow would help the room because of the low energy of each of the wavefronts that meet room objects. At the speaker, especially at the driver / source, the wavefront energy approaches the sheer strength of air - so propagation management matters a lot there, but less-so the farther it gets from the source. At least that's my layman's understanding of the territory.