Tracking error or ??


I was listening to my Lyra Kleos last night and on one of the most dynamic records that i own ( and best sounding) an Analogue Production Sonny Rollins Way out West LP; I noticed on the second side, which is very dynamic and has some serious high frequency extension, that there seemed to be a little distortion (or over loading) that i suspect is coming from the cartridge. The Kleos is tracking at the recommended 1.8 grams and my arm is usually pretty immune to miss-tracking ( as it uses a liquid bearing). Anyone else experience the same kind of thing with the Lyra's? I wonder if a higher tracking weight might be the answer, even though Lyra recommends an exact 1.8 grams?? 
daveyf
I absolutely agree.... you have to consider the table, arm and cartridge as a complete system.  An arm and cartridge can certainly sound better or worse on one table vs another.  But, if you compare my nicely set up LP12/ARO/Benz S-Class Zebra Wood Ruby to a different table/arm/cartridge of your choice you may find that they both are capable of reproducing music in a very pleasing and satisfying manner.  Will they differ in some aspects?  Sure.  Some people prefer... belt, direct drive, idlers.... some people prefer high mass, others suspended designs, etc.  My point is compare the table/arm/cartridge as a complete system.

As I had said... I compared these arms (the Linn Ittok / Ekos & ARO) on the "LP12". I, and many others are of the opinion that the ARO sounds superb on the LP12.

How does the ARO sound on other tables, I have no idea as I have not tried it on other tables.  However, as much as I love my ARO on my LP12, I would not and did not say that the ARO would outperform other arms on other tables.

My point of contention is that Raul blatently stated that the ARO "is not a good tonearm for any cartridge" period... as if that is 100% fact, or the Bible's Truth.  

Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinions and I realize everyone has the capacity to "hear" things differently and have their own sonic preferences.  But to "my" ears and in my humble opinion, the Aro presents music in a natural and organic way. Very much in the same manner that I hear when I perform in live acoustic events; both with my Montagnana cello in classical settings and my trombones in various jazz venues.  Nothing sticks out or sounds out of proportion... it's very evenly balanced.  It captures the dynamics, the full beautiful tones and harmonics, the timing of the music and presents it all in a very believable way.

In any case... I truly hope you will be able to sort out the periodic right channel distortion.  Please report back when you have it figured out as it may be helpful for others on the forum as well.

Wishing you all the very best!
Don






Dear @daveyf : "" Maybe it would be better to go to another table that allows for far superior arms to be mounted..."""

That could be your best and common sense alternative and you have down thre the Rega RP10 that comes with an excellent tonearm.

In the STHP Fremer review of the SAT XD-1 TT with SAT tonearm ( that set you back ober 180K when the Rega goes for around 6K. ) you can read this:

"" The XD1 shares some sonic characteristics with Rega’s revolutionary RP10 turntable: ultrafast, clean transients throughout the audible frequency range; tight, fast bass; revealing midrange transparency; and overall sonic stability and focus. ""

@no_regrets I really respect your subjective opinion but exist to many facts/evidences not only in this thread but in several threads where the subject was analized in deep and those facts/objective ( not what you or me or asome one else likes. ) say that unipivots tonearms is the worst kind of design for any cartridge. Forgeret what you like because this is not the issue.

Now every one has its own level of priorities MUSIC/sound system quality reproduction. Some of us are way demanding that other gentlemans.

R.
@rauliruegas  Thanks Raul. I'm not jumping ship on a Linn Klimax for a Rega 10 ( even though this is a good table). BTW, please do check your spelling in your last post...;0)

If i move on from the Linn, it would be to a Basis or maybe a TW. Both of these offer platforms that I think work well with a variety of tonearms, although the Basis arms are very good. I have friends who own these tables and as such, I think these tables are the upgrade route. 
One thing that i have noticed is a lot of vinyl pressings can have distortion on highly modulated peaks that are not there on others especially at the end of the record side.
@daveyf , sorry to be so slow getting back, That bell hanging down from the pivot is added mass. It is an attempt to lower the resonance point in the various degrees of movement. The problem is that no filter is brick wall. Then to minimize the ringing and amplitude of the resonance the bell hangs in a pool of damping fluid. The wand itself is flimsy. We know from history now that wand stiffness is an important issue. Wands with a wider diameter are stiffer. Arm tubes that also change diameter are a further improvement.
The longitudinal axis is the one in which the arm moves forward and backward along the long axis of the wand. Even a unipivot arm does not do this. A cartridge has to be held rigidly in all directions save two. This is the very basic requirement for a tonearm. I do not like Schroder's reference arm for the same reason. But it was developed early in his career and he has since made up for it with the CB, LT and apparently the soon to be released Soundsmith Alto arm. 
If you go for a Basis try to find a Debut Vacuum. The original suspension was the best one but it was a more complicated and expensive turntable to build. It seems after AJ died Basis has taken a step backwards. AJ lived right around the corner from me. AJ and David Fletcher were good friends. David encouraged AJ to use his suspension design. AJ was a cost no option guy and David wanted to make a turntable for the masses. David also talked AJ into adding vacuum clamping. The Debut Vacuum IMHO is AJ's finest hour.