Speakers as the principle component/other components are servants
clearthinker438 posts07-07-2021 5:32amBy the way OP, that’s ’principal’ not ’principle’. Thank you very much for this sp correction, Honestly I had no idea of *al and *el* I really did not, I really need to get on my word learning again. If I may once again my mantra, , Speakers are The PRINCE-pal* , Crown Jewel of our sound. Pun intended. Amp/source are the servants, |
speakermaster536 posts07-06-2021 8:23pmIt is this thinking about the so called high tech of today that is the most disturbing when audio was started they spared no expense on the drivers, cabinets, crossovers, etc. as well as the microphones to record the music with when we all realize that technology is not the answer but finding/ rediscovering the past is the answer to our audio problems. The old technology is where it is at for a lot of listeners in the know especially when you compare the old with the new no contest old every time. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I asked my tech guy as to way Magnovox , Jensen, Zienth made suh great speakers in the Console cabinets, Alnico's Field Coils and such. He says, because back in the late 50's, early 60's , materails were cheap, and engineers, designs were not rushed, things were done more meticulous and with the objective how can we make this the very best sound speaker. Fact is the 1920 Field Coils made in Chicago and Berlin, had set at least some standards as to how midrange should sound. Nice clear , articulate, sound stage presence, krisp, detailed,. just wonderful... Fast forward to late 60's , 1970s. ConsumerISM = commercialISM came along, Cheap drivers , cheao xover parts, The few good ones , like Theil, Philips, AR4's, a few others, were the best of the bunch, Some folks continue to this day to enjoy and cherish these xover designs, A friend has stacked AR4's, , really sounded great, , I must admit with a Golden Tube masive tube amp anda Conrad Johnson line stage. But you you, if you listen on 1 channel with any xover desiggned speaker, and the other channel with a new high tech wide band, The contrast will be significant. And for me the shootout will be over in less than 1 minute, if not a few seconds. This is how impressed I am with wide band/xoverless sound. Its really a no-brainer. It was only a matter of time before we met paths, at the xroads. A Adious xovers, I gave you all the very best , Mundorf super high tech caps (=$$$$) and yet you just could not muster up more than a *tweak-ling* in upgraded sound. . You let me down, and its high tech time that we part ways FOREVER!!!!!!! There are new kids on the block who can sing far superior than you ever could. |
If I had the chance to hear Troels Gravesen's top end speakers, would I like the sound? I think so, But at what cost?? Expensive, heavy, and big. 3 factors that cancel out any interest I may have. Sad wide band were not the main principAl topic around Audiogon starting back in the early 2000's. Any interest in these designs, (excluding horns, speaking only cone wide band) got shoved under the,,,steam roller. It has always been about xoverxoverxover designs. This forum is so biased if not prejudiced. If not despising against wide band cones. AS the poet wrote *The times are a changin* Bob Dylan |
