The parts , the wholes and the master. I noticed that the most
''new Kiseki'' are offered on the second hand sites. Similar to
van den Huls. The question is who put the parts together to
get the ''whole''? Obviously ''the master'' is involved such that
the master is more important than the parts. Say Ikeda, Takeda,
Lukatschek, van den Hul himself (or his employee). The question
who produced the original Kiseki's is still an mistery. But whomever
it was should be regarded as a real master. I own the original
Black heart and regard this one together with Agaat series in
the same league as Ikeda's and Takeda's. The market is not
always wrong (grin).