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A full range speaker?

Many claim to be, but how many can handle a full orchestra’s range?

That range is from 26hz to around 12khz including harmonics, but the speakers that can go that low are few and far between. That is a shame, since the grand piano, one of the center points of many orchestral and symphonic performances, needs that lower range to produce a low A fully, however little that key is used.

I used to think it was 32hz, which would handle a Hammond B-3’s full keyboard, so cover most of the musical instruments range, but since having subs have realized how much I am missing without those going down to 25hz with no db’s down.

What would you set as the lower limit of music reproduction for a speaker to be called full range?

 I’m asking you to consider that point where that measurement is -0db’s, which is always different from published spec's.
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mozartfan
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Gut feeling says the Nextel mids from Seas, give more tighter punch in low bass,  vs the softer low bass of the Magnesium.
But I can feel that paper resonance in the Nextel coated paper woofer, vs the the cleaner,  neutral upper bass/low mids in the magnesium. Trade off once again.
I'll take the clearer/more sweet, less warm Magnesium over the Nextel.s

I think Seas made the Nextel to compete with Scanspeaks superior low bass. Scans are paper composite mids. 
I just can not deal with that overly warm voicing of the upperbass/low mids, which even a  Nextel coating can not mask over.
As far as the Cresendo, its 92db.
I'd rather think the T35002 with 95 db, and $100 less per tweet, is a  better bang.
Hard to say w/o comparing side by side. 
T35005 goes down to ~~~~~1500hz~~~~ wow, don't see that low  very often
The Cresendo's recommended xover is 2khz.
hummm, see  my hunch is right, T35002 95db, Neodymium magnet, x's 1500hz.
WinWinWin

So I'd go Graphene W22/T35002
vs this Bifrost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgaUQO4lvII&t=10s

https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/seas-soft-dome-tweeters/seas-excel-t35c-002-35mm-mid-tweeter/

Cost about the same, 
But better bang IMHO


mozartfan
2,143 posts
 
IMHO
Best midwoofer for the BuckBang
WOW factor high.
Dont come cheap, thats for sure, = bank busters.
Worth every cent you pay. High tech will cost ya.

https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/approx-8-woofers/seas-excel-w22nx001-graph-e0077-8-graphene-co...
mozartfan
2,143 posts
 
Scratch the T35C002
back to Cresendo.
Yeah I know low is 2K,
W22 Graph high 2k.
Gonna have to xoss at 2khz.
The issue I have with the T35C002, is its too sensitive and has too much gain in the upper register.
The Cresendo will give more **body* to the lower register and will not extend as high. Its a beefier tweeter.
I found the T35C002 has too much sizzle on top end.

Oh yes, I love this Cresendo graph at 2khz, 
~~~90db sens~~~~ 
wowow, thats  super. This is one heck of a  tweeter, 

Cresendo Magnet weight 53 grams vs T35C002 @ 35 grams. 
Cresendo Bestbang tweet,

https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/seas-soft-dome-tweeters/seas-excel-t29cf-002-e0040-crescendo-f...
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emrofsemanon
292 posts
 
flat from 16 cycles [lower limit of 32' pipes on an organ] to beyond audibility [over 20k cycles]. bass that doesn't go down that far and that loudly is not going to properly reproduce the full scale of a large pipe organ or even a large symphony orchestra with full-sized bass drum/thunderdrum and concert contrabasses. you've got to be feeling those pants-flapping 32' contra bombarde pipes. 
medium_grade
89 posts
 
Omega speakers does an excellent job with their full-range drivers. They have several speakers they call "high output" in which two identical drivers are run but the second is cut off at 200hz so it only adds bass and low end and dynamics (improves efficiency too). Their 4.5-inch driver has great top end extension, is very fast and has a very wide image. Their Alnico driver has better bass, dynamics and excellent tone. Their 8-inch driver excels in dynamics. 
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