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ORANGE Fuse rejected

So, to bring everyone up to date, my favorite fuse for analog equipment has been Furutech for a long time (I’m really sad that they no longer make the fuse). For digital transport type equipment, the best fuse has been Audiomagic Superfuse (NOT beeswax fuse - in my opinion the beeswax fuses push too hard on the voltage - this is the best I can explain what happens).

So, with the addition of a Farad Super3 linear power supply added for my Pink Faun S/PDIF computer card, I decided to try a Synergistic Orange fuse on this Farad power supply. It has been in the unit for at least 6 weeks constant now (24 hours a day). I recently finalized the burn-in of my last set of digital AES/EBU cables and sat down for critical listening and comparison. While this setup allowed me to differentiate between the digital cables and select which ones sounded the best, there was no cable that really sounded "good". I was really confused at this point because the sound had this harsh edge no matter what digital cable I put in the system.

So, I decided to pull the ORANGE and put back in an Audiomagic Superfuse. Low and behold, all that harshness was gone!! Also, the Audiomagic Superfuse gave me more tones and texture in the bass than the ORANGE fuse did. It sounded much more natural as well (throughout the entire frequency range).

I remember when I first put the ORANGE fuse in, it was like "wow, there’s so much high frequency resolution". But in the end, this was too much and too harsh (like someone turning up the sharpness on the TV way too much!). The ORANGE fuse -might- do well in warm laid back sounding equipment, but I only build my systems with high resolution detailed equipment and the ORANGE is not a good match for this.

Like I said, the Furutech Rhodium has been the best I have used for analog equipment (i.e. preamps / amps). However, it is a bit too slow and colored for digital transports (streamers, transport, bluray players, roku, video processors, etc.). The Audiomagic Superfuse excels in the digital transport area because it is fast and also neutral sounding.

There appears to be another thread here talking about Quantum Science fuses, in which even the Light Blue was an improvement over the Synergistic ORANGE. I may read through that thread and possibly try one of the Light Blue or Yelllow in the future sometime. Maybe it would be a good alternative to Furutech Rhodium.
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georgehifi
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And a warning for anyone reading this, I won’t respond to negative comments. All are free to post/read, but keep in mind that the people who have 9,000-12,000 posts in their history are not likely to add anything constructive to this conversation.

If anything at all, it’s not constructive what you claim ac mains fuses can do to music, because there's no backing of any technical proof posted, it just your hearsay.


No manufacturers or even well regarded technicians are willing to come onto these forums and back with their own posts what is claimed to be heard here.

And this is why you don’t have to pay $$$ for a 50cent fuse, for it to make a difference.
To those "non technical" members that are interested, listen to the techs of this industry that designed the very audio products you are listening to.
Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.
As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK
(even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)

Cheers George

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nonoise
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You can always count on george to barge in with his tired and monotonous behavior. His claims have already been disproved.

Take for instance, when Ted Denny came on and addressed the issues that georgie raised and georgie wouldn't even respond to him. He just went onto other threads and continued his rants. When Ted posted on those other threads, georgie again ignored him.

Respond to him at your peril.

All the best,
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Oh thank you for having such trust in me, and no I’m not going away.

And there was no reasonable technical explanation given, just that there was 1/1000 (1 milliohm!!!) of an ohm difference in the measurement reading, (and that can be a humidity difference on the ohmmeter itself!!) and that is ridiculous to even contemplate it can give fusers the reason for their wild claims.

Hey anything to give the correct side of the story, to counter any shilling for yet another fusers "snake oil" thread, AGAIN!!!


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auxinput OP
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ORANGE FUSE REVERSED.  Okay, I did reverse the direction on the Orange fuse and did critical listening.  While it did not have as an extreme effect as the original direction, it did still have a somewhat sterile harsh tone.  I even reversed the fuse again back in my original direction just to make sure.  In my opinion, the ORANGE fuse imparts somewhat of a sterile harsh bright character.  The direction of the fuse does impact this as the sterile/harshness was even worse in one direction, but it still carried the same type of signature.

Putting the Audiomagic Superfuse back in, again, removed the problems that the ORANGE fuse was presenting.  I reversed direction on the Audiomagic a couple times and I could not hear any significant difference.  The AM is much better, comes across more relaxed and much more natural sounding, but still presenting the upper mids and highs in a very fast and crystal clean way without any harshness.  Stronger bass with more bass tones and texture.
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