2.1 to 5.2 (Vandersteen 2C)


I have a pair of 2C which I have had since the mid 80s.Other than the WAF they are great.
We just got an LG OLED and the spoken parts are pretty dire for sound, so looking at going 5.2…
Is staying in the Vandersteen lineup a good idea?Or should I be considering other options?
128x128holmz
If you like Vandersteen there's zero reason to switch. While a center channel will enhance the experience be aware a lot of alleged 5.1 content is actually missing center, so if your L and R aren't sounding great for dialogue a center won't necessarily enhance it.

What you need to consider is a good processor instead OR adding some EQ between your LG and your 2 channel rig.

My point is the center alone won't help the dialogue but a processor will, and a processor with a good center will be great.  Stick with Vandersteen.
PS - I'm talking specifically about Netflix streaming missing center channel.

If your LG is like mine there is no analog output.  I suggest you use something like this which is a DAC + EQ for it's output:

https://www.minidsp.com/products/dirac-series/ddrc-24

You can use the auto-EQ features and tweak them for better dialogue. :)
@erik_squires

I used 2 channel stereo for my TV for years, and although what you say may be correct, and may work, for those as I who refuse to put their TV right smack in the middle between our ‘front speakers’, a center channel speaker is a must. In fact, in ‘TV mode’ it is the most important speaker I have. Yes, also for years, I had my TV in between my speakers in 2 channel stereo mode, but that doesn’t work for me anymore as my system set-up and ‘main speaker’ placement is optimized for 2 channel music listening, and again, my TV isn’t going in the middle.

And as I said, I would never use a multi-channel receiver/integrated/processor for my 2 channel listening again. I tried that. Not good. If others don’t mind, good for them, but not good enough for me, personally. I know you can spend gobs of money on ‘good’ multi-channel processors, but for me, I would rather spend most my money on dedicated 2 channel amplification/equipment for music, and keep them separate.

I guess it comes down to how much of a ‘true Home Theater’ experience you desire, and how important it is vs 2 channel system for critical listening. For me, my multi-channel set-up is fine, and sounds wonderful when I am watching/listening to the Berlin Philharmonic steaming live, or watching a football game, or a movie, TV show, or the news. Others may require more. It all depends what your priorities are.

But back to the original question by @holmz, yes, Vandersteen makes speakers you can use for a full HT set-up. But for the potential cost, how critical is that vs. money spent? You can always buy used, and as a Vandersteen ‘fan boy’ myself, that is what I would do if it made sense. But I also think that if ‘true Home Theater’ is the goal, there might be better speaker manufacturers who are more geared to that set-up.






The sound from my Samsung TV was quite anemic, so I bought a zVox for $250.00 and love it.  I has settings for dialog and now we don't need the TV loud to hear what is being said.  I never use my audio system with the TV.
@bkeske I have AV processor coming, so I figured I would take the XLR to RCA and run the L/R through the stereo amp…(Is this what you meant?)
Then I think I can just run the AV outputs to some plate amps the only level matching would be to remember to set the stereo preamp to a known position like 12 o’clock.


@erik_squires I have an MP-50 on its way (used). So that is HDMI-in and HMDI-out to the LG.Mostly there is just a NUK (Intel PC) streaming in NetFlix. We have a handful of DVDs, maybe 10–20 at the most, and rarely view those. So it is NUK—>LG now, and will be NUK—>MP50–> LG.
I considered a MiniDSP, but the lip syncing, etc had me just jump to a full AV-preamp… plus I wasn’t sure I could get HMDI into MiniDSP… (think I should have checked before jumping in)


@bkeske Yeah I think used is fine for me… The room is 18’ wide + another 12 for a dining room, and 14’ deep. The ceiling it’s 11am high. (I can supply those dimensions in metric, rather than freedom units - but it is probably sort of common for a mixed use room in an older house).
There is not a lot of room as the sofa is against a wall. So I was thinking a used set of VSM1 on the left and right wall 95 degrees to the sides of us.(Definitely no room for a 7.x.x system.)
On the Vandersteen Q&A page, it looks like a VCC1 is not enough so I should be looking at VCC2 or a VCC5. I will probably go for a VCC2 as the WAF is the hardest part to address.
It should probably help if the TV is wall mounted, and if I put together a cabinet below it for the gear to sit in.
I am also thinking of putting a buttkicker on the sofa for the 10-30Hz, (so we remember to evacuate when the monsters or other scary sounds/feeling happen.) Or something to do the <20 or <25 Hz stuff. The other aspect related to the WAF stuff is that she both doesn’t like loud sounds (hyperaccousis) , and simultaneously has a hard time hearing the dialogue.Is a butt kicker a decent option to augment “bottom end” LFE sounds?