Dual SVS PB-1000 Pro versus Dual Rythmik LV12F- does Servo Technology Matter.



I have a 10 by 12 room. The room is a closed off bedroom and we plan to live in this house for 30 years or so until we can’t live independently. Equipment will be upgraded over time but we will be using the same room forever. Our AVR is a Denon 3700 and our main speakers are Monitor Audio Silver S6 with matching center. Surrounds are Primus P162. Our previous sub was a BIC V1220.

While the subs will almost certainly work hardest for home theater I do want something that also works well for serious music listening. I primarily listen to classic rock but some jazz and classical does get into my mix now and then.

I am still mostly sold on the SVS but I wonder if the servo technology of the Rythmik might give me somewhat better performance for music.

I realize that dual of either one of these will be a huge jump in performance for us but I am wondering the Rythmik might have advantages for music while still being great for HT.

Other people on other forums have also suggested Outlaw and the Hsu VTF-2 Mk5.

Any thoughts on this, please?

Thanks,

bladerunner6
Hello,
👋, Yes I just woke you up by virtually slapping you. Please, Please do not keep going down this rabbit hole. You have a great start with your Denon 3700. The reason is you can divert the two front channels and use them for height channels. This is a very rare feature. Plus they lower or shut off the preamp to the channels not being utilized. This is a small room. Do you know how much pressure a sub can create in a room that small.  If you are serious about two channel please look into a preamp and amp with home theater bypass. Emotiva has a preamp that does this. $750 used on Agn. Please do not use their amps. Too cold for music. Great for HT.  You can buy so many really good amps that will not break the bank. A better idea is a Hegel H95 integrated amp. You can use those beautiful crazy damping amps to push your front L+R speakers for home theater and 2 channel music.  Killer DAC on board. Being that people upgrade to the H120 and H190 all the time they become available on AGN. It has a built in DAC and streamer but also lets you use your 3700 for HT. If you can afford it, go for a REL T series after you buy the Hegel.  These subs have a connection for your two channel via the Speakon connection from the amp or the RCA line in. Plus, it has a separate dedicated LFE. I am picking REL because of size and the three ways to incorporate it into your system. Your subs are fine for now. If you want a dedicated room shaker plug a cheep bigger sub into the Denon and point it at the wall. In that room you will shake the paint off the wall. Believe me small SVS is not your choice unless it is for shaking the room. You can do that with a $100 used sub. Also, the micro subs need to be placed in specific spots to sound the best. Typically in front between your two front speaker out in the room. You want flexibility in a room that small. Hegel H95 is your best bet. Add One or TWO small REL subs and you are done forever. Oh, that Blueray player you are using for HT. Connect it digitally via Coax or toslink to the Hegel. It will work awesome as a transport. The rest you can stream from your phone to the Hegel until you buy a BlueSound NODE. Not 2i. You want the new one so you can use that kick A$$ USB in the Hegel in the future. If anyone has this same issue try this store in the Chicagoland area . https://holmaudio.com/
They are a dealer for Hegel. The Rel and Denon will be bought elsewhere. They did have a few used RELs the last time I was their picking up my Hegel V10 Phono Preamp. Also, I am demoing a Hegel H190. If I was to start over I would go the Hegel route except my room is much bigger so I have two HL Audio F110 subs with the CR1 crossover. Talk about removing paint. Sorry for the brash start. I don’t want you wasting money especially in a small room. 
@pedroeb, analogue isn’t missing bits of information.  The higher the bitrate, the less info gone.  
To say digital is superior to analogue is not correct.

And AVR’s are not going to get you the same sound quality as a good 2 channel amp.

Any other falsehoods you’d like to spread?

For the few people that posted useful information and comments, thank you.

However, I have learned various things from this post:

I will be more concrete in stating my budget when posting on Audiogon.  Just because you can spend $5000 or whatever on subwoofers doesn’t mean most people can.  The median US income is a bit over $60k a year.  After food, clothing, shelter, insurance, telecommunications expenses, heating, water, sewage, taxes, retirement savings etc most people can not  spend untold thousands on audio equipment.  My lovely wife and I make a fair amount above the median but we still have limits.  EVERYONE should keep in mind that different people have different budgets.

Also, if I ever ask a question again on Audiogon I will ask that people that believe in cables, power conditioning, the superiority of analog, etc to avoid posting.

You are wasting your time, you have no credibility.  I say this for both your and my sake.

There is no point to you posting something that I will ignore.  You not posting to my questions saves you time, so please understand this benefits you.


Again, I thank the few helpful posters.  
Also, if I ever ask a question again on Audiogon I will ask that people that believe in cables, power conditioning, the superiority of analog, etc to avoid posting.
Well, if that’s the way you feel about it then don’t say something like...
While the subs will almost certainly work hardest for home theater I do want something that also works well for serious music listening.
When you say “serious music listening” on this site people will always point to your AVR because no one here “serious” about listening uses an AVR, and if you don’t understand that then it is you, sir, who have the credibility problem here.  Either just say “music listening” or post your suggestion on an HT site where you won’t have to suffer people who truly are “serious” about music listening and are more on your level. But don’t come on here and tell us our intentions are misplaced the way you asked your question. It’s not our responsibility to somehow know we need to dumb our answers down just for you.


I will be more concrete in stating my budget when posting on Audiogon.  Just because you can spend $5000 or whatever on subwoofers doesn’t mean most people can.  The median US income is a bit over $60k a year.  After food, clothing, shelter, insurance, telecommunications expenses, heating, water, sewage, taxes, retirement savings etc most people can not  spend untold thousands on audio equipment.  My lovely wife and I make a fair amount above the median but we still have limits.  EVERYONE should keep in mind that different people have different budgets.
I really do not care. 

Cheers!