Thiel Owners

 am confident that I am not alone in thinking that there are instances where the CS 2.7 and/or the CS 3.7 would require subwoofers.
  Utilizing a proper power amp will not unto itself act as an equalizer to yield aural results across the frequency spectrum beyond the scope of a loudspeakers limitations.

That's a timely comment for me, as I just spent the last couple days
checking out my new CJ amplifiers.  I've used the CJ Premier 12s for 20 years and just grabbed a pair of Premier 12s that had been upgraded with lots of the CJ "Art" series upgrades, Teflon caps, works better with KT120 tubes etc.


Wow, it's literally sounds like my speakers got bigger!  The bass depth and soundstage are just huge, and seem to give up little to nothing to what I remember from my Thiel 3.7s.    And it sounds better to me than with the subwoofers I had (which I just sold).


In no way would I dissuade anyone from adding subwoofers to their speakers, Thiel or otherwise, as there are plenty of happy listeners who have done so.  But having had the 3.7s, and the 2.7s with subs, I'd take the sound I'm getting now any day.

jafant,

I got my Vovox cables from ProAudioLA. They typically deal with online orders, but they do have people who answer the phone if you have questions. I think they do have an actual store in California, but I don't live in that part of the country.

For most cables, they buy the wire in bulk and terminate the cables themselves (with a lifetime guaranty). For Vovox cables, all the terminations are done in Switzerland by Vovox, and the finished cables are shipped to U.S. dealers for sale over here. 

By the way, I've read a lot of pro audio engineers who post online saying that the Vovox Sonorus is the cable to demo for sound engineers who don't think that cables make a difference. Vovox also makes a more expensive line of cables that I have not heard, and I don't know who carries them.

sdl4

Thank You for the additional information. Will you replace current Cables/cords with the Vovox brand (full loom) ?

Happy Listening!

jafant,

I don't know whether I will try a full loom of Vovox at this point. If I do decide to get a 5-meter pair of Vovox Sonorus interconnects to make the change to a "longer XLR - shorter speaker cable" set-up, I will then have my current 1m Vovox XLRs to try between DAC and preamp, combined with new 5m Vovox XLRs between preamp and amps. If that arrangement sounds better than the Cardas-Vovox combination I'm using now, I will eventually go that route. For now, I'm going to live with the combo XLRs for a while to be sure that works for me long-term. I have heard that the Vovox XLRs don't change in sound much between shorter and longer lengths, so I'm assuming the 1m Vovox will have the same sound signature as a 5m Vovox. I haven't tried any other Vovox wire so I don't know how their power cables, speaker cables, etc. would sound in my system.

In my reading of pro audio forums, I have seen a few comments that support the use of Vovox Sonorus interconnects selectively rather than at all stages of the recording/mastering process. I guess some users think that the clarity and openness of the Vovox can be "too much of a good thing" when used throughout the process. On the other hand, some users have wired their entire studios with Vovox and rave about how "live" it sounds. I know that Tom Thiel really likes Vovox Sonorus as a mic cable in recordings he has made.

I mentioned earlier that Vovox has a more expensive cable line (called Excelsus). They also have a less expensive line called Link. All three lines (Link, Sonorus, and Excelsus) include both shielded and unshielded cables. The unshielded cables tend to sound better as long as extensive noise rejection is not needed.

sdl4

Thank You for the informative follow up. I will make an effort to contact the operation in California for additional intel.
Keep me posted as you massage Vovox XLR into your room/system.

Happy Listening!