Magnepan's midrange will not stand up to DavidLouis midrange,
+ I get the bass magnepan can't deliver
+ I get the bass magnepan can't deliver
Midwoofer+Tweeter vs Wide band
90%++ of our usic, Especially classical music,, falls in the 500hz-say 2500hz range.
Now I FIJNALLY!!!! Understand all the fuss and issues with a midwoofer/tweeter thing.
Mid woofers are attempting to do 2 things, carry bass and carry 500hz-say 1500/2khz.
Tweeters, those tiny lil 1/2 inch vc's are trying tp voice 1500/2khz thriugh 10khz/15khz
Now i finally grasp whats going on here. with sens level at no more than 90db, most drivers are actually below 85dbm, regardless what the lab specs states.
vs
Wide bands
These higher quality speakers , voice easily, with no stress and a perfect meshing on the 60hz-12khz, anda seamless gorgeous musical image.
Witha TRUE REAL, Not hyped 92db sens.
habds down the wide band 8 inch easily performs far superior to Wilson's mega money speaker line.
I have no idea why the american audiophile will not accept the truth, the reality, of the wide band 8 inch speaker performance over the box Wilson.Vandersteen, Magnepan, Thiel speaker design.
The chinese audiophile has long ago dumped the low sens multi driver design for the single 8 inch wide band design.
There is not even 1 speaker with muti drivers that offer the least interest , now that i have made the wide band discovery.
Its really a no brainer
Yet facts show the american audiophile ain't budging one bit towards the wide band speaker.
I can give 3 reasons why the multi thing has failed
And I can give 3 reasons to go wide band as speaker of choice
I can not find even 1 good reason to stay multi speaker.
Although I am using my wide band with Seas W 18's dual, and a tweeter.
Still its really a single wide band speaker, not multi.
Many of you here have even yet to hear a new wide band.
Why the resistance?
Now I FIJNALLY!!!! Understand all the fuss and issues with a midwoofer/tweeter thing.
Mid woofers are attempting to do 2 things, carry bass and carry 500hz-say 1500/2khz.
Tweeters, those tiny lil 1/2 inch vc's are trying tp voice 1500/2khz thriugh 10khz/15khz
Now i finally grasp whats going on here. with sens level at no more than 90db, most drivers are actually below 85dbm, regardless what the lab specs states.
vs
Wide bands
These higher quality speakers , voice easily, with no stress and a perfect meshing on the 60hz-12khz, anda seamless gorgeous musical image.
Witha TRUE REAL, Not hyped 92db sens.
habds down the wide band 8 inch easily performs far superior to Wilson's mega money speaker line.
I have no idea why the american audiophile will not accept the truth, the reality, of the wide band 8 inch speaker performance over the box Wilson.Vandersteen, Magnepan, Thiel speaker design.
The chinese audiophile has long ago dumped the low sens multi driver design for the single 8 inch wide band design.
There is not even 1 speaker with muti drivers that offer the least interest , now that i have made the wide band discovery.
Its really a no brainer
Yet facts show the american audiophile ain't budging one bit towards the wide band speaker.
I can give 3 reasons why the multi thing has failed
And I can give 3 reasons to go wide band as speaker of choice
I can not find even 1 good reason to stay multi speaker.
Although I am using my wide band with Seas W 18's dual, and a tweeter.
Still its really a single wide band speaker, not multi.
Many of you here have even yet to hear a new wide band.
Why the resistance?
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missioncoonery920 posts09-14-2021 3:36pmYou're having a conversation with your self...whats the point of this post? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Audiogon rules are, No snides, no insults. As long as I keep all things friendly and honest, the mods have no issues with my self chat. Just do whatever every one does here and ignore this topic. Thanks I believe I have found the most perfect speaker. Regardless if everyone is shutting their ears. I think its called protectionism. If DavidLouis gets out, Magnepan, the lone USA speaker lab, may start to have serious issues staying open for business. I understand, Audiogon has always been about promoting the Made in the USA. Which has never been my thing,,its always been, what speaker delivers the goods. The only speaker I know of that exists is DavidLouis VX8. 2nd to none Caveat: Not heard AER, most likely never will. So lets say maybe 2nd to AER. Thats a big fat maybe. |
kingharold, I find your description of your DIY system very interesting. I too really like the AER BD series of wide-range drivers and I really like the idea of using them as a wide-range midrange driver. When the vast majority of the lower midrange to high frequencies are covered by a smooth driver like the AER drivers, the sound is quite special. I like horn-based systems that also utilize a compression driver/horn to cover a similarly large part of the midrange, with woofers coming in quite low and a tweeter on top for just the very highest frequencies. This can be done without using digital time delay for the drivers and it still sounds good. I have a system with a compression driver/horn midrange (Western Electric 713b driver KS12025 horn), twin 12" woofers in a Jensen/Onken cabinet) and Fostex bullet tweeters like yours on top. The 713b driver is my favorite compression driver, but, it does have the disadvantage of not going very low, so mine is crossed over at 700hz. A local shop, Deja Vu Audio (Tyson's Corner VA), makes a lot of horn-based custom systems, and with the really big horns; they crossover the compression driver as low as 150 hz, with the tweeter coming in at a 8,000 hz or higher. These horn systems, as well as systems utilizing wide-band cone midrange drivers (like yours) are so lifelike, vivid, and harmonically saturated, unlike many more conventional systems. |
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