Just Curious - About using a AV Receiver as main unit


Just curious about something.

I know it is preferable to use a Integrated Amp or Pre-Amp+Amp combo as your main unit in the system but sometimes I see used AV's receivers see from manufacturers who make really good high end 2 channel equipment and these receivers sell for less then say a 2 channel component from the same manufacturer (units from say Rotel, Anthem, Arcam, Marantz, etc). Also, since we are talking about AV Receivers, I guess it's fair to compare them to SS Amps. If your into Tubes, then that is whole different story.

I wonder sometimes if you start a build using one of the AV receivers instead of the 2 channel component, would that be a good system to build off of.

I will say for myself, I started with a Denon AVR-5700 (which I still have and was a beast in it's day) and I think it was an excellent piece of equipment and had a great 2 channel section.

Last year I bought a Integrated amp but honestly, I could have easily stayed with the Denon and build off of that.

Sure, these AV's receivers wont compare to components that are way up there in the thousands but if your budget is bit tight I think these components would be great to start with and I am not talking about your $400 dealer receiver from best buy, I mean AV's receivers that were top of the line in their day and now can be had for much cheaper. 

Well just curious and my opinion.

Thanks
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You guys love to exagerrate and speak in generalities. Cheap stereo integrated will not be better simply by virtue of that layout. The highest end AVRs back in their day were made to meet or exceed separates for home theatre and many thought them superior due to additional abilities that greatly affect sound like room correction and internal dsd decoding to reduce jitter. As a consequence of their high prices some also had very good preamplifier sections matching the best home theatre separates. Consequently many sounded really good in 2 channel mode. A relatively cheap stereo integrated is not going to have 180 watts per channel for one thing, and quality is commensurate with any components original when new price tag. Buying used you can often get much higher quality for the same cost of buying new but you have accept the risk. Just saying if you do your research and find a good example it can pay off. Yes, nobody wants them anymore but that is due more to size and complexity of use than sound quality. If your willing to take the time to set one up properly you may really appreciate the versatility. For example, extra channels can be reassigned to biamp speakers. I’m not sure my KEFS would be able to handle the extra power but some people say this can be a performance improvement and I have that option.
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