why do so many discussions turn contentious?


just venting....why do so many discussion posts need to turn  contenious and nasty?  do you guys find that constructive and/or enjoyable?  I have no clue who or how this forum is moderated, but I sure would love to see a stop to that...it makes me feel like this hobby is dominated by total jerks.

Can't we play nice, share OPINIONS and OBSERVATIONS, realizing that  they often are subjective and biased.  
"if you dont have anything nice to say, say nothing"?  If you wish to disagree, do it in a constructive and mature fashion, no need for "argument ad hominem"...

with all the chaff, one must waste so much time finding the wheat, figuratively speaking.  

I doubt my writing this will change anything, but, like most social media, people writing to others without facing them does not bring out the best, sadly......



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When you act like a jerk, you’re going to get blowback. Then you think of yourself as a victim, and then poor Tammy sometimes has to get involved. I feel bad for and appreciate her and the audiogon team.

mikelavigne
1,718 posts
09-18-2021 12:51pm
frequent posters here bring their baggage and agenda’s with them, which is the opposite of seeking knowledge or good intensions.


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Exactly
Its been my lifelong dream to find the ideal if not near perfect speaker.
Now that I have made this lucky by chance discovery,,, folks here wish to trash my research.

All the bashers have to do is challenge my ideas and findings with some of their ideas built up over the decades.

Instead they stoop to snides and jokes, lacking the skills to confront me with solid evidence that my beliefs are off base.

We seek knowledge of what maks a  speaker a  Definitive Voice for our musis, a  Reference Speaker that others have to be compared next to.

I believe speakers area  science and thus objective, and much less subjective.
That is to say, distortion, coloration is real and results in listeners fatigue.
Something we all wish to avoid in out systems. 

Speakers are a  science and should be approach  via testing and experiementations. 
Results are valid proofs one design is superior to others.
I think it’s because many of these (mostly) guys have a lot of money/time/effort invested in the hobby, and it has become a significant part of their self-identity. Different ideas threaten that investment and identity, so they lash-out in defense (fear) or offense (pride). We (myself included) should all remember to, "Fear nothing and respect everything.", as it would likely result in an online environment reading less like tabloid drama, and more like helpful support.
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While this posts focuses on the negative aspects of this forum which I admit are many, the overall benefits it can provide greatly outweigh all the weird, random vile stuff inserted.

Here is my example @jjss49 system photo shows a DAC I'm really interested in.  His response was to check his posts when I asked him about it.  Checking his posts he actually talks about my current DAC.  @jss49 is a goldmine and all I have to do is click his name and read his posts.

Here is a person who understands the hobby and has direct knowledge about the questions that I'm interested in.  Where else can someone get that hands on experience regarding HIFI regarding my specific questions and maybe if I haven't alienated him be able to  provide even more detail upon request.

So if for no other reason than your own benefit turn down the rancor as the person you just flamed may be the person that could actually help you the most.