Not wasting my time on new Digital


Well guys, I have disappointing news:

Getting all hyped being a tech guy, tried out a new $9000 top flying Integrated CD player, with the apparently best design and parts including Anagram algorithms and ……..

I don’t know boys, this is my second disappointing experience with new digital gear.
I am not going to mention any manufactures that I have been disappointed with.
I have a very nice system to my ears to name a few products including Sonus Faber (Electa Amator mk1 to be exact) Apogee’s, Audio research and more…….

Decided to try some new sources of course and I was told all sort of things and parts and man oh man, the reviews and well to my ears other than my original Oracle turntable and my newer VPI table, my older DAC’s sound much more musical. WHY? WHY? WHY?

New technology, new ideas, new designs, new engineering and we see to be going behind rather that forward. I still like my original Theta Gen V and even my Bel Canto DAC for a fraction of the cost, even my Micromega DAC hands down.

Anyway are there any other people experience the same thing, by the way I have tried some very serious stuff and out of the pricy gear…meridian and Spectral (Spectral SDR-2000 with no upgrades and still sounds amazing) stays on top of my listing.

Appreciate any input.

Cheers - rapogee
rapogee
If you're going to start worrying about the velocity of propagation in cabling, you better start looking at the Td ( Time Delay ) through each component. That will be pretty tough though as most manufacturers won't provide this type of spec, probably for good reason. Sean
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D edwards makes an interesting and compelling argument. I wonder what do you think the minimum number of channels is to do digital justice?

I too have been very dissatisfied lately with some pretty expensive digital equipment. Currently I am listening to a NON-OS dac the is proving to be very enjoyable. I gave up on heavy analysis of my system some time ago and am now just looking for some engagment out of my systems' sound. This has lead me to pursue some different technologies (some old, some new).

Interesting thread.
Zaikesman,

I'm not quite sure what your post means,

Are you saying Analog LP's outperform 24 bit digital systems?

Anyway, I'm not sure its important.

If you want a cool experience that won't be a waste of your time. You should come to Baltimore and listen to the system I have posted. Bring some CD's, I'll show you something you haven't heard before, I promise!
if one accepts the premise that live unamplified music is a valid reference, the experience of listening to live music is binaural.

i don't remember hearing the sound of a piano behind my head when attending a piano recital, in a large hall.

also, what does the representation of timbral accuracy have to do with the number of channels.

it is possible to create realistic timbre with one quad esl.

now, back to the issue of digital. a good source is a good source, whether it is analog or digital.

close your eyes and decide whether a recording of a piano, e.g., sounds like a real piano, to what ever degree.

the source is much more important than the stereo equipment.

there are many decent examples of vintage (pre 1990) digital gear and some examples of decent current digital gear.

the problem with today's high resolution components, is that they expose the flaws of recordings to a greater degree than some of the older components with less resolution.

so pick your poison--euphonic coloration to cover up the sins of many digital recordings, or todays high resolution, less colored digital devices which are more accurate as to revealing what's on a recording.
Ray Kimber's Isomike recordings demonstrate how effective rear channels can be
in delivering the (binaural) experience of listening to live music. Rest assured,
no pianos will play behind you.

Sean, I'm afraid I don't understand your post at all. Can you spoon-feed it to
me?