your 2 channel will be fine. Can it be better? Of course it can. It can always be better, but at what cost? That's when you figure out what to do with 2 channel. Try it the way you are doing and then we can talk, lol. :).
How to get into high end digital? (Feeding a DAC)
I am looking primarily at the Schitt Yggdrasil or the Topping D90.
Some example of what is commonly done would be great.
The system currently consists of:
I also have a Home Theatre pre, which is Roon capable, on the way… So that maybe does some of this for me as well?
But to be totally honest, the digital side is a bit of mystery to me.
I have always thought we plug in a CD player and the signal comes out. (Maybe with some nuance in DACs, clock jitter, and filtering to separate the higher end from the lower end products.)
- How does one feed those?
- I am assuming any sort of CD transport would output the bit stream?
- or… they get saved to file and played from some media player into the DACs.
Some example of what is commonly done would be great.
The system currently consists of:
- TT —> Audio Research PH2
- An old Nakamichi 5 disk CD player
- TV
- Audible Illusions line stage (New tunes on the way, but it still sound OK to me with the old tube in it)
- Prima Luna (with GoldenLion and TS KT-120 one the way… and I might I’ll get the VTL mono blocks 100w/ch serviced)
- Vandy 2C and Vandy sub
I also have a Home Theatre pre, which is Roon capable, on the way… So that maybe does some of this for me as well?
But to be totally honest, the digital side is a bit of mystery to me.
I have always thought we plug in a CD player and the signal comes out. (Maybe with some nuance in DACs, clock jitter, and filtering to separate the higher end from the lower end products.)
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@holmz It’s difficult to understand what you are targeting when your OP says “high end digital” (what does this mean to you?) and it appears you have not stated a budget. Generally speaking, digital audio playback requires a server(where music files stored)> streamer(transportation/delivery of music files) > DAC (translates files to an audio signal). If you want to spin SACD/CDs, you’ll also need a transport. A CD player has both a transport and DAC built in. In high-end audio, for best performance it is generally better to separate the functions to better isolate components from vibrations and electrical noise but costs more in casework and additional cables. Also, usually a DAC+transport is significantly sonically better than a CD player unless you spend considerable $ for a higher quality player. For greater flexibility (upgrades), better performance, and lower cost, most high-end digital systems have a stand alone DAC vs a CD player. |
@holmz Well I was not thinking much of budget, but less than 10k. But high-end to me would be something that sounds good and does not sound like it is obviously coming from a CD player. A CD player has both a transport and DAC built in. In high-end audio, for best performance it is generally better to separate the functions to better isolate components from vibrations and electrical noise but costs more in casework and additional cables. Also, usually a DAC+transport is significantly sonically better than a CD player unless you spend considerable $ for a higher quality player. For greater flexibility (upgrades), better performance, and lower cost, most high-end digital systems have a stand alone DAC vs a CD player. Since the AVR has the Roon End-Point and DAC built in, I will try that first. Plus it has some built in room correction, so maybe that will help sound in terms of bass and EQ, without destroying imaging? I’ll see I guess. |
@audiotroy There is a lot of misinformation here the quality of the data stream really matters and can totally affect the sound quality of the dac all dacs are sensitive to jitter recllocking can help but digital noise can not be reclocked out. This is one of the reasons pcs make poor tramsports Listen to a dedicated server from auralac,aurrender innous or 432evo and you will hear a dramatic improvement in your digital playback. Hi Dave, I have a T+A SD3100HV connected to a SOtM network switch with a MacBook Pro i7 core and SOtM cat 7 ethernet cables. Do I need a dedicated server to better the sound quality if so which server would you recommend. Thanks |
OP you are getting advice from jasonbourne and his ilk which I suggest you completely disregard if you are after 'high end digital' That poor horse has been beaten to death. You also mentioned something about measurements. If you are not familiar with digital then ignore the technical side and use your ears. Somebody gave the impression that R2R is baggage which is not true. Don't worry about the architecture just how it sounds. I have an ancient baggage machine, a Wadia 15 that is so full of baggage that it can only play redbook, but outplays my Bryston DAC even when the latter is playing hi-res. True story. The measurementalists frown when I explain that I prefer listening to ... music, not so much interested in how sine waves measure or sound. Whether it's analogue or digital the source matters a lot and it's importance should not be underestimated. The recommendation to visit a few dealers is solid advice and is worth heeding. Even if it takes time and effort you hadn't allowed for it will pay off by providing you with a target performance you are comfortable with. Forget those that say "just connect your computer to a cheap $300 DAC using the cheapest cable cos' they all sound the same" Also consider buying used which is what I am doing. I need to downsize and once my used Mojo Mystique V3 DAC arrives I will sell the ones I mentioned. He sells V3 units that he takes in trade for $3500 but they are scarce, and I will when funds allow probably get one of his servers at about the same price. Or contact me if you may be interested in the Wadia |
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