Why the hate for mcintosh amps?


Why dont people,like mcintosh? Who motivates this?

so what are the alternatives??
emergingsoul
50 years with Mac, last June. There are products I don't care for and I don't buy them. The prices have always been high. The return has always been high.

I like Mac Vintage tube gear more so than anything else. BUT!  There are some special sounding SS preamps that are really nice too. C45 and a MX120, No idea why, don't care why.. The C2200 on up all are good units. I have a C2500 that is just wonderful. I use a Cary V12r, Six Pacs, (on loan) pair of 211s (pretty nice).

I've paired them with Samra C11, 20, MX110s (2), C22, C2200, MX120, C50, MX150, MX160, C2500, C2600.

I owned 601, 1.2k, a pair of MC2300 and MC2500 at the same time, the only thing I ever seen make the house light dim when they were firing up.

MC240, MC2300 (2) and a MC2500, will net you a 300.00 increase in your electric bill, 20 years ago. MY WIFE had a cow...NO $hit, me too.

I went with James B and some modded Ampzilla's he had and sold all the SS Mac, gear at a whoppin' profit I might add.. My PG&E went to the normal 50.00 increase..

I still have 25+ pieces of Mac valve Vintage..

Listen to a tricked out MC225 or 240 or a pair of MC30 or 60 with the right valves.. C11,20,22 or MX110z. Mercy..

Same type of speakers, small planars and ribbons.

The only thing missing. A REMOTE!!
Why dont people,like mcintosh? Who motivates this?

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Same deal with Jadis around here, Don’t feel Mac is the only lab gets bad rap.
Seriously
I heard
Dyano ST70 modded
Allen Oran KT120 amps
EL34 designed by a loacal master
250 tube designed by same master(pure Colbalt out trans @ 1 G each!!),
Honestly, seriously
straing shooting, they all sound prerrty close to the Defy KT88
Thats 5 amsp, ina blaind shootout you’d be lucky to guess which is on the speakers.
Throw in the Mac, again, lucky guess.

The only thing that really matters is how’s the quality build, meaning repair factor.
Jadis built to last forever with no repairs.
Thats why i like Jadis,
All tube amps sound pretty much same.

I wouldn’t go Mac as they are over priced and too heavy.

Based on what i know about these amps today,,I would not have bought the Defy @  $4K nor modded at $2k

I'd buya  Cayin EL34 , or my friends EL34, or a  Allen Organ mono blocks. 
Of the budget chinese 845 I will purcahse in December.
can't wait....
.= will sound very close to the Defy,,,
 just buying to watch the 845 light up at night in a  dark room,,
sooo, cool
of course while on the speakers...

My friends 250/6 watt tube amp with pure colbalt  out trans $3300,
= same bass slam as this Mac on most speakers

This might  be part of your answer to this mystery, of **Mac Bashing**

https://www.audioadvice.com/shop-by-brand/mcintosh/mcintosh-ma7200-200-watt-receiver
who REALLY needs 
200 pure true bonifide 200 watts per cahnnel??
My WBers really work best with 1 watters.
Defy @ saolid 100 watts, using linestange at say 9 oclock = 85 watts NOT needed.
My friends 6 watt 250 tube, at 10 oclock its 85SPL 
= 4 watts NOT  needed.
200???
For what? magneplanar 3 pannel speakers?? Guess so.