16 bit vs 24 bit vs 35 bit vs 36 bit vs 64 bit DAC sampling

noske

I understand the steps appearance in the time domain. Instead of the sinewave looking smooth in the time domain, it looks stepped up in increments, then down, up, down with the flow of the sinewave ... As bit rate increases, the size of these steps decrease. With 65,536 of the little buggers, I reckon the curve would be pretty smooth(but not continuous) ...

No, you’re mistaken. That’s why I provided you a link that demonstrates it for you visually. There are no "stair steps" in digital audio.

In any event, I query the theorem that a continuous signal may be obtained. One may be approached.

Do you understand the difference between a theorem and a theory? Do you understand that a theorem is a fact proven by math? That you don’t understand or accept the math, or that you won’t watch a video to learn, doesn’t invalidate the theorem.

Digital audio is not intuitive. It’s math.

My opinion is that you like the new DAC but it has little to do with bit depth. Others have noted that you are limited by the original recording anyway.  Its the weak link theory (kinda like life).

I'll also point out that many of my absolute favorite recordings are in fact analog tape originals, digitally mastered to Phillips Red Book (16/44.1), but lovingly with proper levels set, filtering, etc.  The devil, as always is in the details.  Using Michelangelo's brush will not allow me to paint the Sistine Chapel.

There are no "stair steps" in digital audio.

Correct, but only after reconstruction filtering.

For people who want to learn about it, you really ought to go back to the original journal articles by the pioneers in telecom int he 1960s - from the Bell Labs Technical Journal and the Lenkurt Demodulator, the Demodulator being very accessible and written for the client base, not researchers.

Slowly a set of blogs on this and related topics is appearing on Sonogy Research's blog as well.


Digital has several challenges. IMNSHO, bit depth is not at the front of the line.

@itsjustme 

What do you perceive as the greatest challenges and areas for digital to excel?

Thanks. 

1. timing/jitter (read the blog at sonogy research.com).
2. noise on the ground of digital signals, that either pollutes the analog ground or impacts jitter (back to #1)
3. Filtering - the reconstruction part, both by shifting the frequencies so they are easier to filter (that's what over sampling or up sampling essentially achieves) or building better filters.  A filter can bee deep, or linear, but typically not both. So the bit I wrote about "only after the reconstruction filter" means these filters can be imperfect.  Can be?  Are.  I'll also point out that that @cleeds said "its math".  True enough, but there is an ocean of difference between theoretical math, and practical implementations. Analog is perfect in theory too.

4. part B of the filters is that there are some very small signals that need to be amplified or impedance transformed at the output of a DAC.  Both present good old analog amp challenges, not all that different from a moving coil cartridge.
5. never underestimate the impact of regular old audio blocking and tackling.  Power supplies. Amps.  grounding.  parts selection.  Do you know how many DACs depend on relatively pedestrian chip opamps and ok-but-not-awesome power supplies?  Most.  You know why?  Its easy and cheap compared to doing it from scratch.