Why the hate for mcintosh amps?

So I think 1 problem when someone states they don't like McIntosh amps is that they are listening to a Frankenstein system with a mixture of different preamps, dacs, cd transports, & phono preamps. So they are listening to the amp out of context: Maybe the amp is so good that its telling you that something up stream isn't so good & and you are blaming the amp for doing its job being the last component in the chain before the speakers or maybe the speakers that you are using are not a good match to the amp. For the best results, it is always better to keep the system whole from a single brand because its designed to work together & to have  synergy: Frankenstein systems don't have synergy and lead to frustration and pain & suffering with endless attempts to make the system sound better. This creates an endless cycle of frustration.

@jb1 - I guess 99.9% of audiophiles have Frankenstein systems. Very few manufacturers offer all components (maybe Rega and Linn?) and even they may not have all the components of a CD system.

I do like turntables sold with arms from the same manufacturer with one continuous cable from cartridge (from a third party manufacturer) to phono stage (no separate headshell) . Of course you want to make sure the cartridge is a good match to the tonearm.

To solve the electronics issue as far as amps go, it's simple, just get an integrated amp and rid yourself of all the extra interconnects.

Mac dont provide a linestage preamp.  Big flaw in lineup.

I am curious why you consider not having a line-stage preamp is a flaw in their lineup. Do you think this limits adding a separate non-McIntosh phono stage?

C1100 has a phonostage, very good one i guess, dont want it.  Crazy to get it and have all that mass and tubes that i dont need.

thats a flaw in their lineup.