the mona lisa is just a piece of parchment with some oil stains on it
surprised it might be worth more than wheelbarrow full of dead leaves... sheesh...
it is THE jason bourne schooling us here....
My Experience With Tekton
I know this is a polarizing discussion point and was thus hesitant to share unless I could keep it objective, helpful, and concise
I have no intention to be inflammatory, sway anyone’s current opinion or beliefs
I merely want to share information in two specific areas, my results of product performance and my experience with the manufacturer
Background and reference point
I replaced a pair of Revel F36. The F36 is the upper end of Revel’s lowest tier floorstanding speakers and retails for $2,000 MSRP per pair
Took approx. 45 mins to unbox, level and connect
Like for like drop-in replacement, same location on the floor as the F36s, the listening position did not change, identical electronics and cables
We’ve all got our preferences, biases, different levels of experience, etc; but share the common limitation that we just don’t know what we don’t know
I’ve not heard a pair of 30K speakers but expect to someday and envy those that own them
In my VERY limited understanding, it’s near impossible to pinpoint how any specific system change will behave and perform across the board, contingent on the variances in electronics, set up and room. These three items alone (electronics, setup and room) make me think that while similar in nature, but at a critical listening level, each combination is unique and a different snowflake or fingerprint
Listening results
Product delivers as advertised
Meets or exceeds every performance expectation I had hoped for
After approx. 5 hours of listening over 3 days I tried to characterize the sound. The first thought was neutral, but that was understating what I was hearing. I eventually landed on natural or real. The voices and the instruments sound VERY real to me. This is as close as I have come with my electronics, setup and room to sensing that someone is singing to me or that someone or an entire band is playing for me
To date, each song that I’ve played, is the best version of that song that I have heard in a playback, and I’ve listened to all of them 100s and 100s of times
Some of the improvement was by a small margin, but most songs, 65% conservatively speaking, by a vast margin – night and day, game changing stuff
Chet Baker didn’t sound like a presentation from 1958, it sounded as fresh and real as a new recording with the benefits of 60 years of technology advancements. Exile on Main Street didn’t sound like a home recording from 1972 it sounded like 2022 with many layers of percussion, keyboards, horns and background vocals
Is the sound of this $5,000 pair of speakers comparable to the sound of a $30,000 pair of speakers? I don’t know, as mentioned I’ve not heard a pair of $30,000 speakers.
What I do know is the $5,000 pair of speakers, simply put is the best my system has sounded by a wide margin
Again in summary, it sounds real, like someone is singing to me
Experience with the manufacturer
I had hemmed and hawed for 2 or 3 months before placing my order. One day the website mentioned a future price increase but until mmdd you could still order at the current price
I called and spoke with Tammy and told her I wanted to lock in on the current price point but wasn’t sure what product or configuration I wanted
She built an open-ended order with current pricing and told me to contact her when I knew what I wanted
With work travel and other commitments it took me 4 months to finalize which speaker, Moab, which upgrades, beryllium tweeters and Cardas connectors, and what color, white
I was never pressured to make up my mind or that my window for the lower costs was going to expire
Since I was the one dragging my feet, I offered multiple times to pay for the product
Not once did they hint or take me up on my offer to pay in advance
They did not bill me until the product shipped
Once I had made all the config decisions, the build and delivery were again, as advertised
Tammy mentioned a 4–6-week supply chain delay with beryllium, that arrived within her estimated timeframe
Once the beryllium arrived, she said she was waiting on cabinets, eta 5-7 days, followed by build and paint, and shipping approx. 10 days after she received the cabinets
Within 2 weeks Tammy emailed my owner’s manual, unpacking instructions and told me to expect a call from the freight company within the next week
Freight company contacted me on that Fri and scheduled delivery for the very next Mon, Aug 30
The boxes arrived scuffed and with multiple impact points that dented the packing material
There are no blemishes or damage to either speaker cabinet, the packing and packaging worked as designed
Upon unpacking, I didn’t experience a heavy smell of paint or wood, if I put my nose to the cabinet, I could smell fresh paint
The cabinet finish or construction does not appear inferior to anything else in my inventory, KEF, Revel, Klipsch, Paradigm, Polk, and Elac – permission in advance to laugh
Enjoy the journey and happy listening
Respectfully
Your Fezza example is certainly different than a Pinto though. The difference between a Skoda, a Pinto and a Ferrari is that we have measured results for acceleration, cornering/skidpad, braking, etc for all those vehicles. No one I have seen, has ever taken a Pinto’s typical ~20 second quarter mile time, and then fudged it by 6 dB to say it is does the 1/4 mile 5 seconds. If they did then I missed it. The magazines and their testers can also wax poetic about the sublime handling, but the facts are not hidden in outright measurable lies. But it is still true that they are all cars. However, if we put 18 wheels on one of the cars, then some of us would likely call it a truck. And if we only put 14 wheels on it, then I guess it would be a truck missing 4 wheels? Lastly the Fezza and Skoda probably have the design philosophy written down somewhere. They did not start out with a clean sheet of paper like that tricycle looking Leman’s car, or the Deisel powered car… But even those had a clear, and stated, design ethos. |
And yet, here is what Jason Bourne Identity posted today in another thread. Hilarious! jasonbourne521,134 posts10-12-2021 4:36pmThe truth is that most well-designed and well-built preamps will sound darn close! Want to hear a real change? Try a different transducer - phono cartridge or speakers! Most electronics today are already pretty transparent to the source. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Just hilariously funny. But actually I have to agree. AS I've stated numerous times on this board amp=amp A tube amp = a tube amp. The real game changers is the speaker Which is why I take all things speakers dead serious. My tech geek adores Uesugi which have to admit is really super high tech design. But to me a tube linesage = a tube linestage. Yes even his Uesugi. However I did havea used older model Prima Luna Prologue for a few hours before I packed it up and shiped it back to seller. Not sure what that was all about perhaps I did not give it enough test demo, Not sure. All I can say has 6 12AU7's in slots. I love AU's. But for some reason I think not having some 12AX's in there presents a sound I did not care for. Ran that over with my tech geek he disagrees. I don;'t know why it did not perform as i hoped. I'm convinced a linestage needs some AX's amplification factor involved. My Jadis 20+ yr old DPL employs 2 AX's but as per tech suggestion that one slot could go AU if I wanted. And so I swaped the AX for a AU and sure enough made a nice lil gain. IMHO a linestage should have a balance of AX and AU for best bang. Off topic back to Tekton-ICs Midwoofer = midrange + woofer = ain't buying. These things distort over 1800 Tweeter = midrange tweeter. Again best they go go low is maybe 2k. So this 1600hz-say 2200 hz sits in limbo, Not sure if you are aware this is a super critical hz band width for all our music. Which is why i completely abandoned these midwoofers/midtweeters as main principle singers in my speaker system. |