Not any tweeter , we are using top of the line supertweeter Fostex EX line . . we try to use DavidLois, vox, clone.order one pair ebay and Compare to 2145 TB, decide to stay TB, and DL sold. for my expirence measuring and listening , whizzer cone little differences, diff resonance depending of size and configuration , but using same idea, on resonance fr, got peak and go down rapidly to 10hz, definitely much more worse than tweeter, but some folks like it and enjoining ,
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Well as a speaker lab, I know costs come in as a factor $250 vs $550. Sound is very close, so good move. But in my case, I prefer the DL over the TB. + as i mentioned, perahps , can't completely recall, but i do remember the Tang Band's phase plug did exhibit a little beaming. Which is why the W3/W4 have this spiked PP. The DL does not have as much beaming so the sweet spot if not a issue as with the TB2145. IMHO the whizzer is not the issues in past Foxtex/Lowther models. Its the material used to make the cones and also the inner construction/magnet type that made the early WBers (pre 2010) have some coloration. The Whizzer performs excellent as it gives mids/highs a bit more openess , dispersion and sound stage. I must have a whizzer in a W6/W8 In a W3/W4 whizzer not needed. My DL W4 has a whizzer , but its really tiny and voices accurate. The DLVX8 whizzer is a work of art and technical achievement. Some chinese tech geek really cloned the AER/Vox with great success. And am I glad he did. Saved me alotttt of cash. Will be a interesting shootout the TBW3/1878 VS the DLW4 Both will remain, regardless how the shootout goes. |
Ok , we have different point of view on whizzer , for me whizzer cone is parasitic element came to stereo hi end from cinema-pro era, where was used huge cone driver with whizzer cone loaded Tube, The freg 8-10KHz good enough fo quality sound in cinema. There is only one benefit for Whizzer ( mechanical tweeter) no crossover , no capacitor , no any phase distortion, Many audiophile like it ( inc you liked it) , so good for you, |
But when you consider AER/Vox/Festrex all 3 big WBer labs employ whizzers. They must have tested with and w/o whizzers. To me its not important whizzer or no whizzer, only the acutal sound matters to me. Still waiting for your imput as to the TB 2145's beaming effect. I could swear I heard soemthing of that affect in my 2 day testing. . So if the 2145 does present some beaming,, well then yeah no whizzer *IS* a problem. Which is why I think they designed the spiked PP in the W3/W4's. I mean to me beaming not a big issue as i am sitting in one spot,, HOWEVER if I can find a speaker that has much less beaming, and sounds on same hifi level (as does the DLVX8) well then I'd rather have the less beam speaker. I know you want to defend the 2145 at all costs, as it is your main speaker in the design. Had I made more extensive testing of the 2, I might be able to find reasons to place the DLVX8 above the TB2145. My review states *nearly identical** I am retracting now, the DLVX8 **I prefer over * the TB2145. Close call, But if only 1 gets the cigar, well then DLVX8 gets the Cuban. Mark Audio no whizzers Fostex's top of line, whizzer. https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/approx-8-fullrange/fostex-fe208ns-8-full-range/ |
No This is Fostex's top line 8 Sigma NO whizzer. https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/approx-8-fullrange/fostex-fe208ez-8-full-range-sigma-series/ |
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