Townshend Springs under Speakers
I was very interested, especially with all the talk. I brought the subject up on the Vandersteen forum site, and Richard Vandersteen himself weighed in. As with everything, nothing is perfect in all circumstances. If the floor is wobbly, springs can work, if the speaker is on solid ground, 3 spikes is preferred.
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Looking for some feedback whether my speakers might benefit from the Townshend Podiums. My speakers are Verity Amadis S. They come with the following isolation platform that Verity developed. As I'm not too technically inclined, I'm wondering if someone has any thoughts where the Verity platform fits into the spectrum of issues discussed in this thread and what changes I would likely encounter in trying the Townshend Podium. Thanks all! https://verityaudio.com/a-new-breakthrough-in-sound-purity-the-masis/ |
Looks like a constrained layer platform using some type of acoustic foam, or maybe fiberglass like the Owens corning 703/705, as the primary damping material. This would be a decoupling solution like Townshend's springs, Herbies elastic material, or the A/V RoomService EVPs. All of them are basically springs, but they each have different elastic properties and will likely sound different from each other when used under your speakers. I would simply use your platforms and enjoy your speakers unless you are really curious and feel the urge to try different things. Only you can tell which product you like best, and for that you must try them in \your own system. |
Of all the various methods springs are by far the most reliably effective across a wide range of applications. Damped springs like Townshend are by far the most effective use of springs. So I have no hesitation in recommending them. When it comes to complex specific solutions like this verity audio thing it is impossible to tell just by looking at it whether it is highly effective but costs a fortune, or ineffective but costs a fortune, or somewhere in between. Only thing we can tell for sure they are using all these different materials because each one has its own peculiar sonic signature. This simply is the nature of vibration and there really is nothing anyone can do about that. What this means is all vibration control solutions inevitably boil down to one of two alternatives: either use springs to allow free movement, or use a combination of materials to try and achieve a sonically neutral or at least euphonic ringing. Some of these complex materials combinations might work pretty good. When this happens they usually cost a small fortune, because of the complex engineering and construction. Also they tend to be much more specific in application, in other words might work great on one thing not at all on another. Springs in contrast are much more effective across a wide range of applications. In other words what mitch2 said, you will just have to try it and see. My money’s on Podiums kicking major butt. But you never know for sure until you try. |
Thank you @mitch2 and @MC for your thoughtful responses. I really appreciate your assistance! I believe that the original Verity speaker lines came with spikes, but a few years ago, Verity designed this platform and included it as standard equipment (at least on the higher-end models). I purchased my Amadis second-hard and the platforms came with it, so there's no additional outlay of money as I own it now. The question is whether I want to trust the default engineered isolation bases or experiment with other platform options. Earlier in the thread, @grannyring mentioned that he had achieved good results from Star Sound platforms, particularly in the area of instrument separation. This is of great interest to me, as I listen to a lot of the major symphonic orchestras from the 1950s-70s, and find that the brass sections tend to blend into an undifferentiated mass. Some system tweaks have allowed me to make some headway with the string sections, but success with the horns has been elusive. My amp and digital equipment use a hodgepodge of isolation solutions: DIY rollerblocks, Nordost SortKone and Isoacoustics, So in terms of achieving better instrument separation, does someone have thoughts on what to prioritize? -Speaker isolation (Townshend Podiums or Star Sound) (or stay with default platforms) -Equipment isolation (Townshend pods) -Townshend F1 speaker cable. |
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