atmasphere:"
I get similar impact on my speakers at home, which are flat to 20Hz. The problem I run into is a standing wave that causes a loss of bass on certain notes at the listening chair- they are certainly there in other places in the room! That's why I got a pair of the Swarm subs, just to break up the standing waves. The speakers can shake the organs in your chest and the cuffs of your pants and they don't sound boomy. "
Hello atmasphere,
My main floorstanding speakers are 6'x2' planar-magnetic panels that only have a rated bass extension down to 35 Hz and also lack the ability to reproduce powerful bass dynamics. I believe the ability of a home audio system to powerfully and accurately reproduce the bottom 2 octaves of bass and bass dynamics, like that heard and felt when listening to live music, are what distinguishes a good hi-fi from a high quality hi-end system. These are the tactile and palpable qualities, along with a tonally accurate and detailed midrange and treble presentation with powerful dynamics and three dimensional stereo imaging, that are able to create the very realistic sound stage illusions in our rooms.
The AK Debra 4-sub DBA system has proven to be an ideal bass supplement in my system and room, not only providing my system with the lacking deep and powerful bass and bass dynamics in the lowest 2 octaves but also doing so while seamlessly integrating with my main speakers. And yes, it is capable of shaking the organs in my chest and probably the cuffs in my pants, if I ever become so dorky that I actually have cuffs in my pants.
mijostyn:" If you but the subs against the front wall there is no early reflection point off that wall so only the floor and ceiling are comb filtering. On top of this you get all the benefits of a swarm system. Moving to the swarm as is normally used with say an 80 Hz crossover, to function as one driver the the subs would have to be within 8 feet of each other which is actually doable in most rooms. If you kept them all within 8 feet from one to the next what would happen? Tim, why don't you do that experiment and let us know what happens. I have no idea."
Hello mijostyn,
From what I've read about bass line arrays and your description of yours, I have little doubt that it performs as well as you state it does, maybe even better than my 4-sub DBA in the right room. I would love to try one or at least hear one in action sometime. However, I think I'd probably need a more agreeable room and wife to do so.
I'd also be concerned about the effect it might have on the sound from my main speakers positioned in front of this solid bass wave and bass cancellation effects when this solid wave reflected back off my room's rear wall.
Later,
Tim
Hello atmasphere,
My main floorstanding speakers are 6'x2' planar-magnetic panels that only have a rated bass extension down to 35 Hz and also lack the ability to reproduce powerful bass dynamics. I believe the ability of a home audio system to powerfully and accurately reproduce the bottom 2 octaves of bass and bass dynamics, like that heard and felt when listening to live music, are what distinguishes a good hi-fi from a high quality hi-end system. These are the tactile and palpable qualities, along with a tonally accurate and detailed midrange and treble presentation with powerful dynamics and three dimensional stereo imaging, that are able to create the very realistic sound stage illusions in our rooms.
The AK Debra 4-sub DBA system has proven to be an ideal bass supplement in my system and room, not only providing my system with the lacking deep and powerful bass and bass dynamics in the lowest 2 octaves but also doing so while seamlessly integrating with my main speakers. And yes, it is capable of shaking the organs in my chest and probably the cuffs in my pants, if I ever become so dorky that I actually have cuffs in my pants.
mijostyn:" If you but the subs against the front wall there is no early reflection point off that wall so only the floor and ceiling are comb filtering. On top of this you get all the benefits of a swarm system. Moving to the swarm as is normally used with say an 80 Hz crossover, to function as one driver the the subs would have to be within 8 feet of each other which is actually doable in most rooms. If you kept them all within 8 feet from one to the next what would happen? Tim, why don't you do that experiment and let us know what happens. I have no idea."
Hello mijostyn,
From what I've read about bass line arrays and your description of yours, I have little doubt that it performs as well as you state it does, maybe even better than my 4-sub DBA in the right room. I would love to try one or at least hear one in action sometime. However, I think I'd probably need a more agreeable room and wife to do so.
I'd also be concerned about the effect it might have on the sound from my main speakers positioned in front of this solid bass wave and bass cancellation effects when this solid wave reflected back off my room's rear wall.
Later,
Tim