KEF 107 without Kube


I'm about to buy a set of KEF 107s without the Kube. My understanding is the Kube basically bumps up the bass to make the speaker more flat and lacks bass/body/punch without it.  Then I also hear that the Kube negatively affects the mids/highs according to many owners.  Is fixing this as easy as just bumping up the bass knob or do I really need to employ my miniDSP that I don't want to put in the chain?  Actually, I'll be using my Mcintosh ma7900 integrated so I don't think I can put the miniDSP in the chain anyway.

Woofers have been refoamed and tweeters have new fluid.. Nothing else has been done as far as wiring and crossovers.  

Thoughts on these without the Kube?  Or any other good mods?


dtximages
I have a pair of KEF 107/2's and the matching cube.  One of the cuts I use for auditioning speakers is "A Nightingale Sang in Berkeley Square" by Manhattan Transfer. The 107/2's rendition is magnificent.  Listen to how clear the transition from the group to a single male voice followed by a single female voice just about 2:30 into the song.  At the time most all other speakers failed to sound as good.  In my old house I had one room for both audio and video.  Even with the cube I didn't think the low bass was good enough for some movies so I used a sub and shelved the cube.  Excellent sound for me.  My new house has separate audio and video rooms so I bought an old pair of NEAR speakers to temporarily use for video.  When I buy a set of speakers for audio the KEF's will go back to the video room and be reunited with my 15" Klipsch subwoofer.  To sum up, what's your primary use for the speakers and how room filling do you like the bass?
@roxy54 Can you provide a universally accepted definition of an audiophile? You're probably right to assume I'm not that. I am, however, annoyed by your response and kindly ask for you to troll your superiority complex to other boards.
dtximages,
You were annoyed by my response? Well right back at you. I was annoyed by your silly comment that you thought they sounded great until you found out why.
I stand by my comment. My audiophile comment was really meant as a joke because so many audiophiles are concerned not only with the end, but the means. Lighten up.   
@roxy54 to maybe change the way I said what I said.. I thought the bass was phenomenal until I found out he boosted the knob way up.. It left me wondering how much "help" the speaker will need in the low end.  From the best I could tell in his bad room they sounded great, or what I knew could be great. Had I had hours to play with them, perhaps I could have figured out something was amiss or not quite right but I just remember thinking "danggg these things go low and sound big".

I purchased my KEF107s new in 1986 for $3100. Theses are 1st generation speakers. My Kube stopped working around 2005 and I have been using the speakers without the KUBE since that time.

I have replaced the woofers 3Xs over this 35 year period. I have an extra set of tweeters and mids in storage also.

I am still very happy with this speaker. The imaging and soundstaging are remarkable. They can still resolve the details in most well recorded music. 

The bass is still impressive without the KUBE. The speaker only outputs what is in the rcording. If a recording is bass heavy it reproduces it. if the recording is lacking bass notes, you will not hear those notes. The speaker is still very accurate.

The Kube allowed:

1. Contour:control over frequencies under 160hz +/-3db.

2. Extension: cut off lower frequencies at 50, 35, 25, 18Hz.

3. Q-Factor: Damping, tightness of the bass

I do miss the ability to have more control over the bass on certain recordings. The bass does not extend down to 20HZ without the KUBE. 

I can say that I'm still in Love with the speaker to this day after 35 years. I will replace them at some point, as they are not on par with some of the better current speakers that are in my budget.

I purchased an Earthquake SuperNova MKV 15" subwoofer to supplement the frequency range below 32Hz.

I am using Odyssey Kismet ++ mono blocks for amplification, Emotiva XSP-1 Pre-Amp, Teac NT-503 DAC, Signal Cable, Groneberg cables, DELL  I7 laptop running Jriver.

I hope this helps you in your decision.

Thank You