Sounds like a hot stamper! Jackpot Records, Willie Nelson, "....and then I wrote"


I just picked up Wilie Nelson's "...and then I wrote", reissued on Jackpot records (1962/2017 reissue). 

I cleaned the new vinyl per my protocol.  I threw it on the table and focused my attention elsewhere--just for a moment because when the very first song came on I had big grin on my face and said, out loud to myself, "Yes!" 

The quality of this record is A+.  Stunning.  Everything is so smooth, big, clear and defined.  No hint of dryness.  

This is not an expensive pressing by audiophile standards.  If you like these songs and spin vinyl, you should buy it.  Somehow I overpaid for it via seller on Discogs when AcousticSounds has it for $20. Highly recommended!

jbhiller

Yes, it's top secret and I totally get why.  I mean, my spouse doesn't want to know how much time and resources I've put into finding the best (to me) pressing of Lou Rawls & Les McCann, Ltd, They Call It Stormy Monday."  It's silly really.  I've spent over $200 and a gazillion hours trying to identify my personal hot stamper.  So I get why better records charges what they do. 

That said.....Folks, Hot Stampers are everywhere!  We just have to find them.  I prefer the journey, but I'd be open to forking over $500 for the best copy of a handful of albums.  

We already have some hot stampers in our collections!

Yes, there are a few titles that I buy over and over again, just searching for the best possible sample of that particular recording. But I've never bought more than, say, half a dozen different copies of any.

- A "cut-out" is not an early pressing of an LP title, and is in fact amongst the last copies of a title made. When the sales figures for a given title drop below a certain number in a calendar year, the record company may decide to delete the title from it’s catalog. When it does, they cut off a corner of the cover (or drill a hole in it, or cut a notch) of the remaining LP’s, sending the cut-out copies to retail outlets. This can be from only a couple of years after the title was released, to many years later. Whether any given copy was made from a fresh stamper is impossible to determine. Or how fresh the production master (the tape used in LP production, which is usually a couple of generations removed from the final 2-track mixdown "master" tape) the stamper was made from is.

- There is some confusion about the signifcance of a cut/drilled/notched LP cover. Not only do cut-outs (as explained above, discontinued titles) exhibit that feature, so do some "promotional" copies sent to radio and retail outlets---the latter for in-store play---in advance of the release date of a title. Instead of a cut in the cover, the cover may just exhibit a "PROMO" stamp. It is THOSE copies that are early pressings of a title. But that STILL doesn’t necessarily mean a promo LP will have been pressed using a fresh stamper. Do you know how many promo copies of a title were pressed? Thousands.

- It is the "white label" promos that are becoming more valued amongst collectors. A white label promo is exactly as it sounds: in place of the record company’s stock label, there is instead a white label, with plain text lettering containing the album title, songs, and artist. It is white label promos that have a greater chance of being hot stampers than any other general group of copies. But it is the earliest copies made off a fresh stamper that are the best sounding. Each LP pressed creates a minute amount of wear in the stamper, each stamper being replaced when the wear reaches a certain level, that level determined by the standards of each given pressing plant.

- One commonly over-looked factor is at which pressing facility any given LP was pressed. The major lables had plants at several locations around the U.S.A., and the numbers in the "dead wax" (the area between the last track and the record label) may indicate at which plant the LP was pressed. Each pressing plant is known for it’s sound character/quality, and different collectors favour different pressing plants.

All the above (and more---different copies of LP’s are of course made at different times of the day, some production managers acknowledging that copies made later in the day sound different from those made in the morning) should tell you that getting a "best" pressing of a given LP title is purely random. The best plants in the world (RTI, Pallas, QRP, Optimal) go to great lengths to minimize quality variation, and are making the highest quality LP’s the world has ever seen.

@bdp24 Thanks for taking the time to make that informational post. You make a lot of positive contributions to the site and I appreciate it.

I buy a lot of white label promos and they are often very good. I'm aware of the different pressing plants, but have never done comparisons to be able to say that they each have their own sonic characteristics.

I have on occasion bought multiple copies of the same title trying to get a "good one".

I understand why better records charges what they do and have no issue with that. Supply and demand, cost of business and all that. 

That said.....Folks, Hot Stampers are everywhere!  We just have to find them.  I prefer the journey, but I'd be open to forking over $500 for the best copy of a handful of albums.  

We already have some hot stampers in our collections!

Yes technically, based on mathematical probability, if you have a hundred records there may be one in there somewhere. That is about what it would have to be. 

I like to test things out and so one of the first things I did after hearing about this was to take the LPs I had two or more of the same and do my own shoot-outs. Sure enough, no two were ever quite the same. I remember getting excited when one copy was a lot more open and detailed than another. Eureka! Until a minute later that copy had really messy sibilance. Oh.

Now about a dozen or so Hot Stampers later it is clear none of my couple hundred records is Hot Stamper level. Not a one. This is not to say they all sound bad. People love to twist that one around. This is not a zero sum game folks! They just don't have that Master Tape level of detail that characterizes a Hot Stamper.

Frankly, I love the luxuriously liquid sound on my 45 Jennifer Warnes The Well just as much as any Hot Stamper. At the same time, if this makes any sense, I wish I had a Hot Stamper of that same LP. Somewhere among the 5k or so pressings is probably one that is simply extraordinarily good. Probably. Maybe. If we had them all to compare....