Is advice from a constant upgrader to be avoided


For a while now I've been reading these forums and to be honest i was thinking of leaving. I felt a bit out of depth given that it seems so many others have had so much experience through owning what seems to be tens of speakers, amplifiers, DACs etc etc and reading people buying and selling piece after piece after piece on the search for some sound.... 

When someone asks advice about a certain item it seems like half the audience have owned it and moved on and have a comment to make. I then read about someone buying an extremely expensive amp and deciding quickly to sell it because it doesn't sound right. Then someone else is on their fourth DAC in a year. 

So all these people have advice to give. What I'm wondering now is, is advice from a person who's never content, constantly changing their system, never living with a system for long enough, and have more money than patience, really the right person to take advice from? .

There seems fewer (maybe they're less vocal) people who buy gear and spend the time to appreciate it, and have maybe only had a very few systems in their lifetime. I think I'd rate their advice higher on the gear they know than the constant flipper/upgrader.

Is the constant flipper/upgrader always going to say that the gear they used to own was no good and they've now got better? Maybe their constant searching is because their ear is no good or they're addicted to the rush of opening a new box. 

Just because person X has owned a lot of equipment doesn't mean their advice is to be sought after, it could mean the exact opposite.

mid-fi-crisis

+1 surfcat

I was crafting my reply at about the same time as you and did not see it until I posted. We seem to be approaching the topic similarly. As a former chintziphile who displayed the arrogance that so often comes with ignorance, I don't have much patience for it any longer. 

I can only give anecdotal evidence of a couple local to me flippers. One guy has probably five to ten each of nearly all main pieces of equipment in house at any one time. No room treatments, careless equipment placement, no AC upgrades. Last time I went over to purchase a piece, listened to what was his main system at time, always has at least two systems up and running, main system nearly $100k just in pre, amps, speakers, this with rather mid fi dac. Anyway, very blah sound, lack of resolving power. Upstairs system mid fi all the way although not mid fi price.

 

I could have put together the best pieces he had in house at time, take some care in what some call tweaks, made a very nice sounding system. This guy obviously doesn't care about sound quality, in fact he wanted mostly to speak about his obsession with audio shows and hob nobbing with audio manufacturers, designers. I see his items up for sale quite often, so still in flipping business. I don't see him giving advice on the forums I visit.

 

Another local to me I only had phone conversations with, invited me over a number of times, always made excuses not to go. This guy had limitless funds to spend on audio, but far more into cars, he always went on and on about his latest purchases of both, could tell from phone conversations he wasn't into music, all he listened to was heavy rock, and purchases were only signals of status. Boring, smug wealthy nitwit. Don't know if this one giving advice on forums.

 

So, based on these two, yes, they are clueless and I'd never trust their opinions about much of anything. On the other hand I've been in communication with former flippers who seem to have great knowledge of gear, tweaks, music. These guys I would trust.

 

In the end, I'd only trust former flippers, those who've discovered what they DON'T like, finally found what they like. While I never considered myself a flipper as I built systems slowly over many years adding new pieces now and then, I too found that discovering what I DIDN'T like let me understand what I do like. IMO, it takes this contextual knowledge to offer advice only to those who know the direction of their system building. The one asking for advice needs to understand their destination point, and the build has to reflect that. Without that understanding, one is likely to become flipper themselves.

 

There is a subset of this hobby that suffers from auiophilia nervosa - never satisfied with a current component, always searching for the grail amplifier or speaker.

Best not to embark on that journey with them.

Would you get marriage advice from a guy who's been married ten times or one who's been married once?