usb, spdif, or usb to spdif converter


If both a source and dac have both usb and spdif connections, generally speaking which is a better connection, and is it ever advantageous to use a usb to spdif converter over straight usb or coax? It was my understanding that these devices were developed for legacy dacs with no usb input. usb wins over coax in my system (computer based) but I am considering purchasing a converter if that will improve things. Thank you.
majorc

The USB interface is a data packet interface. Granted, you can improve music quality if you put in a better usb transmitter/source device. However, the receiving dac is going to have to un-wrap that usb data packet to get the actualy music file data (such as 16/44.1 or 24/96, etc.). Then it has to generate the individual channel pulses at the exact clock timing (such as 44.1khz). It outputs this on two i2s data lines that feed directly into the DAC chip. That is why I talk about the quality of the USB-to-I2S module in the DAC. If you have a really good one, then the USB input can be used.

When you use S/PDIF, the DAC has to unwrap this into two separate i2s data streams (for the dac chip). However, the pulses are pretty much already there and are being sent with the actual clock timing required (i.e. 44.1kz or 96khz, etc.), so no re-clocking /re-generating has to be done by the DAC when compared to USB input.

These high end usb-to-spdif converters are a very high end version of the "USB-to-I2S" module in the dac. This can be a significant improvement over using the DAC USB input.

Many thanks and hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving.  I am running a windows 7 desktop computer (a 12 year old gateway) usb output to an idsd micro dac for both music and blu ray movies.  I would rather use a stand alone player.  However, when I compared the computer sound (usb to the usb input of the dac) to the player's sound (coax to the same dac - using a newer sony blu ray player) the computer's sound was MUCH better in every way.  Any thoughts on getting equivalent sound via coax from a player would be appreciated.   

I've got a music fidelity sitting here doing nothing if you want a fabulous deal on a USB SPDIF converter.  This is the 24/96 version.

Which is better probably depends upon your hardware.  The SPDIF is more generic, I think, so it might all depend on how your DAC handles USB.  DACs convert USB to I2S internally, so that if your DAC does this well, no need for external USB to I2S device like the Singxer.  

Ultimately, a sound test is best.  However, for example, if the USB board in the DAC gets its 5V internally, as opposed to through the USB cable, it is likely the best way to go.  This is something to consider when buying a new DAC.